Back in July 2010 we wrote about an upcoming one piece solution that will allow the 700,000 owners of legacy Samsung DLP rear projectors to view 3D content from  cable, satellite and Blu-ray 3D disc on their 2007 and 2008 model year HDTVs (link). A kit is now available directly from Mitsubishi.
Called the 3DC-100S, the package consists of a new Mitsubishi 3D signal adapter, a remote control for the adapter, two pairs of active Mitsubishi 3D glasses, an infra-red emitter (to sync the glasses to the 3D TV), a 3D demo Disney Blu-ray disc and one HDMI connection cable.
The adapter will only work with specified series of Samsung DLP rear projection televisions and twelve series of Mitsubishi rear projectors. It will not work with Samsung’s pre-2010 series 3D capable plasma TVs.
The list (provided by Misubishi) of the 19 compatible Samsung models is as follows:
HL61A650C1F,HL50A650C1F,HL56A650C1F,HL72A650C1F,HL61A750A1F,HL67A7501F,HL-T5075S,HL-T4675S,HL-T5675S,HL-T6776S,HL-5076S,HL-T5676S,HL-T5687S,HL-T5087S, HT6187S,HL-T7288S,HL-T5089S,HL-T569S,HL-T6189S.
The package sells for $449.00 and is currently only sold by Mitsubishi on its website (link).
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Not that anyone is reading this string anymore, but… my denon 2311ci died so tried three open box avr’s from Best Buy with the Mitsu 100s: Pioneer Elite vsx50, VSX 53, and Denon 2312. Happy to report that all 3 avr’s allow me to connect my various 3d sources to the avr and the avr to the Mitsu 100s. (YAY!) So looks like the latest 3d avr’s from Denon and Pioneer DO now work with the Mitsu.
Thanks to Mitsu for making their adapter work with the Samsung DLP’s. Truly nice 3d effect and picture at a total price (for Sammy and the Mitsu adapter plus 2 pairs of glasses) that’s still 1k cheaper than the latest 61″3d Sammy/ Panasonic LED’s and plasmas. (And who needs a Smart TV when the 3d sources and even the avr’s are Smart now?)
Having said that, Mitsu’s customer support was lousy… the obviously foreign person I spoke with could not even understand my question (about what avr’s Mitsu knows work with its adapter) much less answer it… all she ever could say is that the Mitsu 100s is the only adapter Mitsu offers for the Sammy…AAAARRRGGGGHHHH…too bad the world has become flat just as the world of 3d has truly arrived.
i just called denon today and they confirmed that there is a handshake issue between the mitsubishi and the denon 2311ci and, as I understood him, all subsequently produced 3d pass through avr’s made by denon…does this mitsubishi work with any av’rs so I can run all 3d sources through the avr, then have one hdmi from the avr to the mitsubishi 100s, and then one hdmi to the tv?(As much as I like the Denon, I have another place in the house where I can use it.)
HD Guru: In answer to your question, I cannot be sure which is producing the message, but Mitsubishi told me its adapter is not programmed to deliver such a message, so my guess is that it is the receiver that produces the message. Weird thing though is that Denon’s literature says it passes through the 3d signal to the tv (or in my case the Mitsubishi adapter first) without affecting the signal, but that seems hard to believe since the 3d effect works fine when I hook the PS3 directly to the adapter (bypassing the Denon). Neither Denon nor Mitsubishi is admitting the problem is theirs, but it is likely that neither has been tested before with the other. (The Mitsubishi was introduced after the Denon was, so seems like it would have been up to Mitsubishi to check that out if they cared.) I guess next step is to take my Denon to where I bought it (Best Buy Magnolia store) to be sure it properly passes through a 3d signal to a more modern 3d tv. If not, then my Denon must have some defect in passing the 3d signal through. But if it does pass the signal through properly to a newer 3D tv, then there is some sort of compatibility prob between the adapter and the Denon that I would think Mitsubishi would want to fix. What a pain! But still glad Mitsubishi has taken the trouble to try to accommodate those of us who have one of the old Samsung 3d ready dlp tvs. The tv and the adapter produce great looking 3d effect when I bypass the Denon, but sure hope to get this figured out so I can simplify my wiring back to what I used to have (one hdmi from receiver to the adapter and then one from the adapter to the tv.
The new adapter works great with my Samsung 61HL750ALF tv when I connect my updated PS3 to the adapter directly. (The adapter is connected to the Samsung). The 3D effect is as good if not better than any of the many 3d displays I see in the stores. BUT when I connect the PS3 to my
Denon AVR 2311CI receiver, and the Denon receiver to the adapter, a message in white type on blue background that blocks out most of the picture appears on the tv. It says: “The HD content of your repeater has been compromised. All devices hooked up to your Repeater will not be authorized to receive video over the digital link.” Seems to be some sort of compatability issue between the receiver and the adapter because even happens when the PS3 not hooked up yet. The Receiver supports 3D (passes the signal through, untouched supposedly) and both it and the adapter support HDMI 1.4. So really am flumoxed.
I am able to avoid the problem by running the video signal directly to the adapter rather than through the Receiver and only running the audio via digital optical line to the Receiver. But this is creating other issues, so would much prefer to run the PS3 to the receiver via hdmi, and then connecting the receiver to the Mitsubishi adapter via hdmi.
Any thoughts on what the prob is? (By the way, Denon’s user manual warns that everything running through it must support the HDCP digital protection standard ,but Mitsubishi tells me the adapter does too, but I wonder . HELP!
In the world of HDMI there are three types of devices, a source HDMI transmitter within a cable box or Blu-ray player, a repeater inside an HDMI switcher (i.e. your Denon) and an HDMI receiver in the display device. I do not know what device(s) are in the Mitsubishi adapter, though I would guess it is also a repeater. The first question I have: What is generating the GUI warning, the Mitsubishi adapter or the Denon receiver?
With that stated, I suggest you make an inquiry to Denon and Mitsubishi as to why this is occurring and what you can do to fix it.
I am curious if the problem would occur with another make and model 3D signal ready SS receiver, since you are locked into the TV and Mitsubishi adapter .
I will ping my contacts at Samsung and Mits to learn if they are aware of the issue you are having and I will add to this response if and when I get new info.
HD Guru
I wonder how Mitsubishi will be supporting the Samsung products? I have the current TRU3D product, which is based upon Mitsubishi’s original solution and it works great. I started with a denon receiver, which is not 3D compatible, but TRU3D helped me work around the installation after about 2 or 3 support calls. I am extremely happy with my samsung and the new games for XboX 360 and DirecTV’s service. I just integrated my PS3 with a simple HDMI switch. There is no way that I could have gotten everything up and running with my legacy AV receiver without TRU3D’s Team. I can’t even get a straight answer from Mitsubishi on their product or if it will work with my Yamaha receiver that I have connected to my second Samsung DLP upstairs. Additionally, Mitsubishi wanted to charge now and ship later. I agree with Dean’s comment. The Samsung DLPs are not always a straight forward install and I am happy to pay a few extra bucks to get the support that I received. 5 Stars for TRU3D, I hope Mitsubishi collaborates with them in this effort.
Wow, thought I found a cheap solution but after reading the volume of disclaimers by Mitsubishi, I think my time is worth the bit extra TRU3D is charging, thanks Anon for the heads up on the little guy.
Seriously? I wouldn’t say Smasung SUCKs! The Samsung DLP was very clearly designed for PC use for 3D and that caused me many headaches until I called TRU3D last year. TRU3D leaped forward at their own risk as a small business to make a solution available to me over 8 months ago and it has worked amazingly with my setup. I must admit, their first release was a bit clumsy, but the fixed all issues and gave me free updates and support. TRU3D has great support and a very kind team. I am very happy with my purchase from TRU3D of the Samsung adapter and they spent hours on the phone walking me through every aspect of using my Samsung DLP and the installation of the adapter. Mitsubishi seems to be finally getting the picture about the need for a samsung adapter, but no-one at mitsubishi is answering any questions, etc and I am very happy that I bought TRU3D’s version last year as its been working great and I had virtually unlimited options for what glasses I could use. I seriously doubt that Mitsubishi actually collaborated with Samsung in anyway and it seems TRU3D is not being given any credit for the work they did in pushing the big manufacturers to support the Samsung DLPs. My business is staying with TRU3D, but it is nice that Mitsubishi finally decided to stop intentionally blocking Samsung owners. I would not say that MITSUBISHI ROCKS for this in any way. And why are they charging an extra premium for the EXACT SAME PRODUCT in a green box instead of a black box?
I called Mitsubishi due to my curiosity about this new product and NOONE could provide me any real information or a delivery date of the solution. It seems their spec sheet is full of disclaimers and side-lines about limited compatibility. At least with TRU3D, I received honest answers and real support. However, it did take TRU3D about a week or two to get to my installation support case, but once I got the call it was beyond amazing. They even gave me information on how to integrate my samsung dlp into the right audio equipment when I upgraded my sound system and I am hearing 7.1 channel sound after the re-programmed the included gefen for me custom to support my AVR without any charge! I personally give props to TRU3D for their hard work last year and this year. Mitsubishi seems to be simply finally jumping on the band wagon to a movement of support that TRU3D started. Let’s not forget who really was there for us when noone else was. When I decided to buy an extra pair of 3D glasses – NO LUCK WITH MITSUBISHI AT ALL! So I went back to tru3d’s site and woallla – extra glasses and batteries arrived within a few days, priority mail. TRU3D seems to be the only company TRULY making a devout effort for samsung owners. Don’t expect this product to answer every Samsung DLP issue out there, I’ve referred many to TRU3D and now wish that I had the X103’s because I also bought a Panasonic. I was able to send in my mitsubishi glasses for an upgrade credit and now I have glasses that work on both my Samsung and panasonic in my bedroom and it only took about 15 seconds to switch their mode. It’s great that Mitsubishi finally stopped intentionally blocking us samsung owners, but nobody seems to have any clue at Mitsubishi about this ‘new solution’ and I am extremely happy that I was able to enjoy 3D for the last 6 months on my Sammy. I would say be weary of buying from Mitsubishi directly as they won’t support you when you actually install it and figure out the real reason that they included so many disclaimers in the specs about Samsung connectivity.
I have no respect for samsung anymore, they make reasonably good products, but they DO NOT stand behind their CUSTOMERS.
Thanks to MITSUBISHI, they do care about others who did not buy their tv. I know that they want to sell more units not just to their TV owners but also to others. But what a way to earn new customers. MITSUBISHI U ROCK!!!! THX GUYS…U have definitely earned one more customer!!!!