Wow. I have never really been much of a Panasonic fan when it comes to Plasma, but I have to admit this looks pretty sweet. I just bought a new Samsung 37″ LCD for the bedroom and love it. But this makes me think about upgrading my main TV as well… The wife won’t be too happy. LOL

We already have a Panny TH-PZ42700U and just bought the 54V10 three weeks ago. I can tell the 54V10 is noticeably better. Originally thought about the 54G10 but decided on the 54V10. If you have the extra $ and are undecided go with the V10 you won’t regret it a beautiful display all the way around! Sound(speakers) is like most of these displays. I’m running mine through a ONKYO 705 and 5.1 setup.

Hey I was wondering what settings are when using custom on the v10?

A couple of things regarding this set and review.

1) I noticed flickering of the screen when the screen was showing mostly bright pictures (such as a mostly white background). Was there noticible flickering on this set?

2) I noticed very bad judder on the G15 series when it was playing a Pixar animated movie (mator and the ghostlight). When I was able to play around with a v10 that was playing a blue-ray movie, I noticed some judder in it even when it was set to 96hz.

3) I also noticed that plasmas seem to have more sparkling pixels. This annoys me and I noticed it on this set (the V10). I wonder if there is some setting that can be switched to turn this effect off?

4) Was the latest firmware on the set?

1) As noted in the TC-P50G10 review, the image flickers if display is set to 48 Hz, no flicker is present at the 96 Hz setting. Only the V10 series and the TC-P54Z1 offer 96 Hz.

2) You may be confusing filmed motion blur cause by the low native rate of film (24 Hz) rather than Film Judder (jerky pans). The former can be seen in a movie theater, the latter not a result of 3:2 pulldown on 60 Hz display of 24fps film.

3) You’ve got me on this one. Not sure what you are referring to. If it is noise you see really close up (about 1 foot or less) its called dithering noise and it goes hand in hand with digital displays because they have a finite number of discrete levels of brightness. The V10 has some, however, its less than the Kuro and not visible from any normal  and sane viewing distance.  If its not, it could be a source problem (like poorly encoded disc), TV problem or something in the chain (like a bad cable). 

4) Need to find out how to check and update this response.

HD Guru

In the description of 3-2 pulldown should it not read: Frame 1, 3 times; Frame 2, 2 times; Frame 3, 3times; etc. It’s past my bedtime but I am reading it as: Frame 1, 3times; Frame 2, 2times; Frame 3, 2 times!!

It’s fixed. Thanks for catching the error.

Gary

HDguru it would be wonderful to see a chart of all HDTVs (but especially Plasmas) that offer true 24p playback, highlighting those that do 96hz refreshing.

My 54V10 was manufactured in May 2009 and when I made the internet connection it had a firmware update. I have not noticed judder or flicker so far on my V10.

I was wondering why you wouldn’t take the picture of the two tvs in a completely black room to show the difference in idle luminance. Perhaps the V series has a better AR filter?

I’ve seen multiple reviews where the V10 is mentioned to have similar or higher black levels than the G series.

Next years neo pdps are only 6 months away. These are obviously good, but don’t quite beat the kuro yet.

Interested to see you Z series review.

This looks intriguing. Have you ever reviewed the Runco 50″ and if so, how does it compare to this Panasonic.

An better Pioneer KURO Plasma is missing, thats why the Panasonic has a free highway. The KUROs tops all at the time.

The Pioneer krp-500m is the best Plasma that Pioneer has ever made…it has the deepest blacks we have ever seen AT ANY PRICE!

HD Guru,

Thanks for the reply.

Regarding #3), yes, it was when I was about a foot away from the screen that I saw dithering pixels. I’ve noticed this more on plasmas than on LCD’s. From your response, it sounds as if this is normal. Thanks again.

Great review. You’ve made me reconsider my decision to purchase a Pioneer 600M. I understand the performance of the 600M is similar to your refernece 141 monitor. I would REALLY like to see a review of the Pioneer 600M. I also hope to see a review of the coming 58″ V10.

Thanks,
Ron

I got one of the first out P54V10s and am very pleased with it, coming from an Elite 1110HD.

The firmware upgrade is easy once you make the Viera ethernet connection. In fact, it just does it.

There is a gamma level adjustment but not numerical so yo don’t know what the level really is for each setting.

Any information on support for upcoming 3D technologies? If I connect my PC to it will it fill the entire screen natively (1080p lines)?

Jerry Steinmetz,
Depending on your viewing enviroment,mine is very controlled dim,or dark CNET has custom settings up for the V10, they reviewed the 50 inch but the review was also applicables for the 54V10 that I own. They achieved the best picture through the custom setting. They look great in my viewing enviroment you might try them.

Panasonic has a Premiere series of home theatre plasmas. Is this a better plasma?

Is this set 3D ready?

Thanks for the V10 review. More positive than CNET ! I would like to buy it, except…read on :

Tens of thousands of people would be interested in your reply – although most of that audience probably don’t check into HDGuru.com. There is a growing, untapped market out there and manufacturers don’t seem to have caught on.

The question : Is there any TV out there providing an excellent picture and built-in excellent sound ? All the TVs being reviewed these days that are getting top marks require an additional sound system to enjoy the whole experience. My wife and I have been down that route and loved it. Now, my wife just wants to be able to turn on a high quality picture and sound TV without getting into the receiver and all its options. We would be greatful for a recommendation or two.

I recognize an external sound bar might be a compromise (say with the V10, but which one ? ), but is there a stand alone system ?

Thank you !

Wow, this is a pretty good review. I just bought a Pioneer KPR-500M, the last model that Pioneer is making before exiting the TV business. I was all set to buy the Panasonic V10 when I heard about this latest Pioneer model and had to check it out. I’m no expert, but I’ve got to say that after making a few comparisons among a couple of different high-end HD tv’s, to me, the Pioneer is still hands down the best. So for 2009, Pioneer is still king, IMHO.

Anyone looking into a 50″ plasma, i suggest you give the Pioneer KRP-500M a look. Just an FYI- it does not come with a tuner, speakers, or a stand but most people don’t need a tuner or TV speakers since they hook it up to a cable box and 5.1 surround sound anyway, and most dealers are thowing in the optional stand. This cuts down the costs, as Pioneer’s are usualy very expensive. For the same price as the 50″ Panasonic, I couldn’t resist the Pioneer. I’m not a Pioneer fanboy or anything, this is my first. I’m just giving my opinion.

HDGuru- I haven’t checked yet, but have you reviewed the Pioneer KRP 500M yet?

Thanks!

Joe
I followed the HD tv shootout where maufacturers top models were tested and the Pioneer 500M was top(won) in the plasma category and the V10 was third. I love my 54V10 so it didn’t matter to me. I may have considered the Pioneer but wanted a 54 inch model. In the end those who calibrated the sets and the person who conducted the shootout said all of the top end models were great and you couldn’t go wrong with any of them. Owners of the 500M at AVS have also commented how much they like it. Enjoy.

The V10 is definitely awesome. I heard the picture quality and contrast beats out both the Sony XBR8, Samsung, Samsung A950, and other LED LCD TVs by a significant amount.

Too bad it doesn’t come in a smaller size since 54″ is too big for my living room.

I’ve had the 50″ V10 now for almost a month. Saw it advertised online and before I ordered it, I called in to confirm the T.V. was in stock. The sales person took an additional $100 off the price. So I got the set for $1899, no tax (out of state order), and free white glove delivery. I’d post where I got it but I understand doing so may be against the rules of the forum. So all I can say is this set can be had for well below the MSRP with a little searching. The set performs every bit as well as it’s described on this site.

I’ve been researching HDTV’s for over 5 years and I’m very happy I was patient enough and purchased a 54″ V10. This set runs really cool with the THX mode on. The THX mode is always on during cable as well, the colors and brightness are perfect in that mode. I’ve had the firmware update right from the box as well, I’ve never seen any judder or particles during 24p at 96hz. I’m very impressed with this Panasonic set. I’ve been planning many years for an LCD set. I’m very thankful I went the Plasma direction. I got the set for $2,100. How can you compare at that price. Simply amazing!

I am buying the p50V10 based upon your review/recommendation and the other great online sites doing the same! Is there a specific recommendation on the ‘break-in’ set-up for this plasma (as well as timeline)? Thanks so much! Great website!

I was already to puchase a Pioneer KRP-600M. Now after reading your review I’m thinking about a Panasonic TC-P65V10! I’m really torn here. Not sure what to do???

Enjoy your reviews.

When will we see a review of the Samsung PN58B860?

I’d be interested in finding if Samsung has caught up with Panasonic.

Thanks,

James

@choyt80: try custom mode instead of THX. You can find the settings on CNet. I’ve tried them and they are pretty good. Of course, not every set is the same so I made a few (very few) changes using my DVE calibration disk.

@JJ: I’ve always heard the breaking period was between 100 and 200 hours.

@Steve: Pioneer TVs have always been named the kings of tvs. So I’d say it’s a question of price. I went with the TC-P54V10 because the pioneer was more than a thousand bucks here and I didn’t think there was that much worth of a difference. Plus, I would have had to drop to a 50″ instead of 54″. The 60″ was way to expansive and too big for my room.

CNET said this TV had poor Red and average Grayscale. Who do I believe?

@SadPanda: Read closely, they say that the grayscale that is a bit less accurate was measured in THX mode. CNet decided to use Custom mode in which the grayscale gave a solid performance.

Thanks, Jeff. Does that mean the color accuracy is only off in THX mode as well? They not only mention red, but also green and secondary colors.

The colors are off in every mode.
I’ve tried them all and I was never able to get perfect colors using my calibration disk.
As a comparison, when I helped a friend of mine calibrate his PZ800 in THX mode, the colors were pretty much spot on.

But overall, the colors are still quite good.
Skin tones look natural and blacks are black, not bluish. And, in my personal opinion, that’s what really matters.

I wouldn’t consider this to be a problem on the V10.

How does the V series work in a PC setup? Do you have to select a specific hdmi channel to PC mode and if so does that then limit the options you can adjust in the tv?

Oh god, you had to change your rating from a maximum of 4 stars to 5?

Quite strange considering no other publication put this V10 over the Pio. Will that big banner in your home page have something to do with that???

Just a comment …

Yes we all know the Pioneers are better. They’re also finished when it comes to manufacturing plasmas because the market ie the consumer decided they are not so much better to justify the cost. Now you can argue the average consumer doesn’t know what they’re doing or etc..etc.. but in the end it is what it is.

Thanks again, Jeff. I really appreciate it.

I’m sure it’s a fantastic TV. I was more concerned with HDGURU, who I’ve trusted, raising a rating system to 5 hearts for something I don’t think is up to standards of insane videophiles.

I own an 8G Pioneer (PDP-5080) and my brother just bought the new Panasonic V10. We calibrated both screens using SpyderTV Pro and the picture quality is still better on the 8G Pioneer.

It’s funny that 10th generation Panasonic panel is still worse than an 8th generation Pioneer panel.

Christian Romero,

Not really surprising. However since Pioneer will no longer be making plasmas because of the cost compared to performance ratio as assessed by the maket,buying consumer you better take good care of your panel. Until prices come down enough to make it profitable to make a Pioneer quality display I suspect we won’t see any. People have judged that the difference in picture quality of the Pioneers vs the rest of the industry wasn’t great enough to warrant the much higher price thus Pioneer no longer makes plasmas.

My dad bought a Pioneer plasma 50 inch (PDPR06U)in December 2005 and last year he had the box back to be fixed (for the tune of the “flat rate” of $500+ shipping). The picture had been breaking up into pixels and wouldn’t recognize certain channels. Now less than a year later, its doing it again AND won’t pick up the channel he will watch most of his football games. He heard that pioneer has moved its facility out of the country and doesn’t really feel like spending another “flat fee” to have his tv work. Should he veer away from the good deals folks have on Pioneer TVs? Try and fix this one again? Any ideas?

Thanks for your help!

Laurie

Can’t decide on a Panasonic TC-p54″ V10 or the 58″ version. I am being told that the 58″ version is not a single glass pane and I am concerned about blurry letters or double reflections on the panel. What does the HD guru recommend? Going with the 54″ single pane or the 58″ double paned panel? My cost difference will be @100 between the two.

John,

As I have learned, both the 54″ and 58″ have two panes of glass. The difference is that on the 54″ the glass extends essentially to the whole front of the screen while the 58″ and higher will have a more traditional bezel. In summary, the 54″ and 58″ will be exactly the same in terms of reflections.

Hi,
in this review you said that “Blu-ray discs are mastered for a 2.5 gamma display”. Why then we always look for exact 2.2 gamma in calibration?

choyt80:
How do you get the V10 to set to 96HZ?…When I went to set( in the custom mode) it , it is grayed out at 60HZ. I cannot change it……

Jerry Steinmetz,

You have to be feeding the tv a 24p source. Blu Ray. Your blu ray player MUST be set on 24p mode. With most players you must inable 24p in the setup menu. Most players default to something else. After you select 24p in your blu ray player setup menu the 96hz function on the V10 will be able to be selected.

Given these wonderful reviews I am going to get the TCP58V10 and will post my experience subsequently. Any recommendations on accessories to get to optimize the experience with v10 e.g. cables, remotes, etc.

Thanks

@Mohan

@Mohan…oups hit enter by mistake

A PS3 along with Logitech’s PS3 adapter and Harmony One (or the new Harmony 900)
10$ HDMI cables (no need to pay more for hdmi cables)

PS3 Slim is coming soon at 299$. Look it up!

Anytime your looking for cables HDMI,ethernet ect.. go to monoprice.com. Great prices and cables are just as good as the overpriced,overhyped brands like MONSTER.

I have been thinking about getting the 65″ V10 due to the anti-glare screen (I have a lot of windows in my family room), but I noticed you don’t mention glare at all in your review. Everyone I talk to says get an LCD because you don’t get the glare, but I want the higher quality an lack of judder.
Do you have thoughts on the effectiveness of the anti-glare screen as well as why the 58″ and 65″ versions have been delayed more than once?

I have been very confused between the samsung PN58B860/850 and now with Panasonic TC-P58V10 please help me chosse the right one I read most of the review but same time I read review on samsung too, please help very confused

@Sunjay

I don’t think any of the two would be a bad or wrong choice. Both sets are excellent.
The V10 seems to have a little edge over the Sammy in terms of picture quality but not enough to make it a bad choice.
In the end, it should be a decision based on the features both sets offer vs price vs personal preferences.

What is the procedure for the 100 hour burn time for a plasma television?

I bought my 58V10 at bestbuy last night $2100. I’m pretty excited to say the least. But my question, what best compliment from the V10. I want a blu-ray with home entertainment system 7.1. What model brand you recommend w/accessories.

Lee,
Panasonic BD60 great buy and features with on board decoding of High Def codecs. $199.00. I have a older BD30 that didn’t have the on board decoding but had a receiver that would decode the ONKYO 705. Of course there are better blu ray players all in waht you want to spend but the BD60 is a great features to cost, player.

CAN YOU PLEASE DO A REVIEW ON THE PIONEER KRP-500M PLASMA BEFORE THEY ARE ALL GONE….

They did a shootout up in New York comparing some of the best HDTVs on the market in 2009 and the Pioneer krp-500m WON! http://www.audioholics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=56682

1)To Lee,
How did you get the 58V10 for $2100? No price has been listed on Panasonic’s website for the 58V10.

2)Since I don’t have internet access in my tv room, is there another way to obtain firmware updates?

PIONEER GUY,

SHOOTOUT is old news. 500M first,Samsung second,V10 third. I wouldn’t hesitate to buy one at all(500M). I wanted a 54 inch however so I got the 54V10 and have no regrets. Amazing picture,better than our Panny 42700U. With the Pioneers however better get them while you can the market ie consumer has decided although the picture quality is the best especially the ELITE series, no other set can best it yet the consumer did not see enough difference in the quality to justify the much higher cost. So the end.

The pioneer elite pro-101fd and the pioneer krp-500m are the best TVs on the market right now! These will still be the best until they come out with a 50 inch OLED TV BUT it will take about 10 years or so before PRICE of these go down…

One more thing I like to say is, you really need a really GOOD HDMI cable to see how good these Pioneer plasma TVs can look!…When you have a great TV, cables do make a difference! http://www.wallywire.com/VideoCables.html

Don’t wanna start a whole new topic here cuz it’s been talked over and over again but NO, pricey HDMI cables do not give you better results than cheaper ones. The only reason (maybe…) would be if you need a 200ft cable.
This is backed up by experts at CNet, Home Theater Mag, Sound & Vision, PC Mag, etc.

10$ cables will be perfect even with a Kuro.

I think Panasonic is making a major mistake by not offering their best plasma sets in smaller sizes. Many people have space limitations or perhaps feel a 50″ TV is just too large for their room size, yet still want a top quality picture. We know they can certainly make them as we have the G10, S1, etc. in smaller sizes. With plasma technology on the ropes, they need to do everything they can to attract new buyers. Wake up Panasonic!

@Dino
Not sure I agree with you on this. I don’t know anyone who would be willing to spend a lot of money on a high end set with only a 42″ screen size.
People who care that much for picture quality won’t want to settle for a screen this small.
At 42″, 1080p is useless. So if 1080p is not even important enough then why spend so much?
I think Panasonic knows that too and that may be why they don’t offer their high end sets at lower screen sizes.
I may be wrong here but I know I would never pay much for something smaller than 50″.

Thinking about earlier V10 series TVs, just purchased Panasonic TCP65V10 65 inch Plasma HDTV a couple of hours ago that would help replace my 10-year old Sony 36″ XBR200 CRT. And although it would smaller than my 720p HD projector displaying on my 92″ Grey WolfeII screen from PS3/HDMI, blu-ray and over-the-air 720p/1080i digital contents ought be much more awesome on this large TV. Would you have any additional thoughts on this latest plasma TV? Thanks!

PIONEERRGUY,

You lost me. A cable is a cable. A 5$ monoprice HDMI cable is as good as any of the insanely prices MONSTER or any other name brand. This has been proven time and time again. However if you think it makes a difference knock yourself out it’s your money. However most videophiles will strongly disagree with you.

Phillip, Jeff, you really need a really good plasma to see these differences better. BUT now If you use a LCD TV to compare HDMI cables then YES, I would agree with YOU ALL that HDMI cables are all same!.. Hook up a cheap HDMI cable to a really good plasma like the pioneer krp-500m that has over 800 hours on it and your see that the very cheap cable looks very dark and has inaccurate colors and has a lot of video noise in the picture TOO….VCR PICTURE QUALITY compared to a really good HDMI cable! Now if you compare that VERY cheap cable to a really good HDMI cable like the Wegrzyn HDMI that I use now and it will be a night and day difference!!……

yeah sorry but again no. If you have a lot of video noise then there is something really wrong with your cable or one of your units or maybe you have a connection problem.
I don’t see any difference whatsoever between my 10$ cable and my 100$ cable. And the only reason I have a 100$ cable is because it was given to me.
I have a V10 and no, you don’t need a pioneer to see the quality between cables.
I don’t know who told you that but don’t believe everything you hear at BestBuy

Jeff, the pioneer krp-500m is the best plasma on the market and in the shootout they had in New York they said the Pioneer krp-500m was “CLEARLY BETTER than the other HDTVs”! The pioneer elite pro-101fd is the same HDTV..They are no differences between these two HDTV’s (picture quality) Here’s a review on the pioneer elite pro-101f…. http://www.ultimateavmag.com/flatpaneldisplays/pioneer_elite_pro-101fd_plasma_monitor/ When you have a really “GOOD HDTV” you can tell the difference from a very cheap HDMI cable and one of the world’s best HDMI cables…Wegrzyn’s pure silver signature HDMI cable! As these HDTVs get better and better you will see even more differences with these very cheap HDMI cables compared to the higher priced ones. Some say these HDTVs will be as good as our eyes by 2014….

Ron,
I able to negotiate down extra $200 from $2399 they originally had it. But I was able to convince them Foto Connection had it same modelfor $2179, so if they wanted my business they had to at least go down a bit more. They took my offer and sealed it for me.

Thanks Phillip.

I really like the BD390 LG. Does anyone know recommended HDMI cable 1.3 (type/brand) I should get with my 58v10?

Lee, DH Labs makes a good HDMI cable for $70 a meter or $90 for 2 meters http://www.silversonic.com/docs/products/VideoCables.html

hey you could be right and all the experts could be wrong. I just wanna make sure people who read these comments get another opinion and won’t waste hard earned money for nothing.

This link is a good start:
http://pcworld.about.com/magazine/2309p111id121777.htm

Lee,

Your welcome. Check CNET on the LG and see what they have to say as well as some other sources.

HDMI CABLE. Now Lee if I were in your shoes I’d save some $$$ and get a monoprice or ohter brand generic 1.3a HDMI cable. They have both cables for inwall and regular. That’s what I’d do. I have 4 1.3a HDMI cables from monoprice for my components. Three going a ONKYO 705 and one out to a 54V10 plasma. Also have two on a Panny 42700U plasma.

But it’s your money so that’s your business. Monoprice.com.

PIONEERGUY,

I have a two quality displays the 54V10 and the 42700u both plasmas. If you want to waste your money on expensive HDMI cables knock yourself out it’s your $$$. Yes as I said the 500M tested better. Great enjoy it if you have one.

Phillip, those very cheap HDMI cables don’t last very long they use very cheap parts and those HDMI connector pins always break off sooner or later. Anyone buying a plasma tv should think about buying a 5 year Extended Warranty. These plasmas do run hot and the parts inside these plasmas do go bad.. sometimes they go bad a few months after the warranty runs out and others may last 3 or 4 years before something go wrong with it. Some places will give you up to 9 months to get a extended warranty on your new plasma tv.

Pionnerguy,

Fortunately my Costco card gives my panny two years of warranty (one year comes from direct manufacturer and 2nd year Costco AMEX). That said, I was under the impression the new v10 radiate less heat; therefore, less energy useage that extend the life w/o breakdown (knock on woods). It really necessary to pay the extra 5 years warranty? I assume if the TV break, it will come within the first two years.

I would also appreciate the proper calibration for my panny 58V10. Our living is pretty bright with some sun glare. But at night is very dark. Thanks.

@Pioneerguy
Yeah ok your last post about the 5 year warranty sold you out. You’re either a Bestbuy employee or you’re just maliciously trying to mislead people in forums. Stop wasting everybody’s time please.

@Lee
Do the right thing and buy a 10$ monoprice cable and forget about the extended warranties.
With the money you save, take your wife someplace really nice and have fun.

Jeff,

Thanks man…i actually the money i saved from not buying the 5-warranty will buy my Blu-Ray LG.

Jeff, NO, I’m not a BestBuy employee…these plasmas cost a lot money to fix if something goes wrong out side of its warranty!.. 8 out of 10 HDTVs in the repair shops are PLASMAS! I just hope my plasma lasts me untill the future larger OLED TVs come way down in price…these OLED HDTVs costs a lot less to make than LCDs or Plasmas HDTVs.

If you do not want to get a extended warranty then just try my teflon tape tweak. This tweak makes your plasma TV run much COOLER!… You take some teflon tape and (put it on) the metal prongs of the ac power plug..(at the base of the plug where the metal prongs are coming out the molding of the plug) You put it on both ends of the plasma’s power cord. Here’s more about this tweak here….. http://www.audioasylum.com/cgi/t.mpl?f=tweaks&m=165052

Lee,

The 54V10 puts out less heat than my 42700U,but it still puts out some heat. Nothing like my ONKYO 705 AV though you can fry a egg on that thing and it’s on a top open shelf.

Settings I am using the CNET custom dark room settings for the 54V10 but my 54V10 is in a very controlled enviro always dim or dark. I’d try over at AVS I keep up with the V10 thread and some folks have posted their settings there. Just do a thread search.

@lee
no room is the same so reading other people’s settings will not give you the perfect settings for your room…but, Phillip is right, go to CNet and use their Custom settings. It will be a good startup.
Note that these settings are for a completly dark room.
Idealy you should spend a few bucks on a calibration disk like DVE Video Essentials.

As for you day and night calibration I guess you’ll have to calibrate 2 different modes and use one during the day and Custom at night.

Even assuming plasmas break more frequently than LCDs, it doesn’t mean that plasmas break frequently.

You don’t buy an extended warranty because, as someone said, if your set is going to break, the chances are it is going to happen soon after you buy it. You are better off saving the $3-500 dollars you would spend on the warranty, investing it, and then using it toward the purchase of a new TV if yours ever happens to break.

And, Pioneerguy, what are you doing with your HDMI cables that the connector pins “always” break? I’ve plugged and unplugged my cheap ones many times without problem. And most people won’t touch them for months if not years at a time.

Before anyone reading this buys expensive cables, please just google it. Reach your own conclusion.

Philip….I got my HDMI cable through monoprice. Suprisingly low price and good quality. I’m shipping it overnight coz my panny supposed to arrived tomorrow around noon. Can’t wait!!!!

Thanks about the cnet settings. I’ll look for that.

Phillip, if you could clear up some confusion I have, it would be appreciated…by what I gather, this set will properly perform inverse 3:2 pulldown and display 1080i60 film-based content with all the proper frames, but at 60 Hz only (repeated frame still present), correct? I know the set can take a 24p input and display at 48, 96, 60 Hz modes, but can it recover 24p from a 1080i60 source AND display it at a multiple of 24 (I don’t think it can)?

Jim,

You are correct it cannot do this.

Lee,

I hope you reached your own conclusions on the HDMI cable after research and Jeffs provided link above to the PC World article. We were just trying to save you some $$. I’ve had monoprice on my 42700U now for two yrs no problems. Again most vidoephiles will tell you a cable is a cable. PIUONEERGUY is entitled to his opinion and if he sees a difference fine it’s his money and he can spend it how ever he chooses though most people after some research reach a different conclusion.

After a few Blu-ray viewings on this set (which is a lovely machine by the way), I thought something was a little off with the picture (a certain degree of grain and shuddering…not juddering mind you, merely shuddering). So, I experimented with multiple settings to no avail and finally dropped the 24p direct in from the 96hz refresh rate to 60hz…perfection…to my eyes and many others, this is by far the preferred setting. The point of this post: what’s the deal? There’s all this talk about the wonders of the 96hz refresh rate, yet with the 60hz setting blu-rays (and all else) are much sharper, crisper, and simply better looking. Is this an isolated incident? Am I crazy…or just plain stupid?

I bought by 58V10 for $2099. Not from Best Buy though (they did not want to go below $2199). I bought mine from Brandsmart in Georgia. I simply love it!
I assume the picture quality of my 58″ TV must be the same as the 54″ TV reviewed above. Goodbye 720p Samsung

I want to get the best out of my pioneer krp-500m plasma and my Wegrzyn pure 4N silver signature HDMI cable lets me see A MORE (LIFE-LIKE) picture and you can see all the (FINE DETAILS) in the HDTV picture that was MISSING with very cheap HDMI cables!.. After you have seen the difference.. they are NO going BACK!

Panasonic plasmas have had power supply problems in the past and some say they have not fixed the problem yet so you might want to think about that extended warranty. Do a Google search for.. (Panasonic Plasmas problems)

Will HD Guru include on its reports whether the plasma TV set has any cooling fans, and if so how many and where they are located.

For example the TC-P50V10 has 4 cooling fans (4 on top and 2 on the bottom back) while the TC-P54S1 has none.

Similarly, comment on the noise produced by such fans when they’re tunning at max speed (unit is hot in a hot room).

I believe if HD Guru starts including the information about the cooling fans it would be the ONLY site on the web to have such information.

Got my 58V10 3 days ago…and i love it. Spend all weekend watching movies….Great colors with deep black. It doesn’t even compare to my old sony projection.

I love the comments about the Soap Opera Effect in this review. I’m so glad HD GURU does not like this effect and are staying true to what movies should look like.
With the V10 producing a full 1080 PPH motion resolution I am sold and plan on buying this TV.
Thanks for the review guys!

Too all those who commented about Pioneer sets being the best black levels, and the end all be all of plasma. Panasonic has been making the Pioneer plasma panels for a little while now. Also, to speak about black levels. Panasonic has come up with a new technology for unsurpassed black levels. This is new, and will be on upcoming on their professional line, and will eventually filter down to the consumer level. When this happens the Pioneer faithful will have no choice but to finally admit defeat, and agree Panasonic has the BEST PLASMAS available bar none. By this statement most would then agree they have the BEST DISPLAYS regardless of technology.

Oh,

This is not a bad remark for Pioneer, because they make a great product, and like I said they use Panasonic plasma displays. In response to some who doubt the quality of Panasonic products, you need to realize Panasonic is a manufacturing company. Unlike many companies like say Pioneer. Let’s say Pioneer makes model x plasma, and halfway through the run they find they can buy a main component from some chinese company at 2/3 the cost, of course they go ahead and do it. The problem with this method is that you cannot have nearly as high quality controls when buying many parts from the cheapest bidder. Panasonic makes nearly everything in it’s products, so they can keep a close eye on the components quality as well. Don’t believe me? Research Panasonic electronics repair rates. In every category they are first or second for fewest repairs. They could not do this if they did not manufacture most everything for themselves. I’m not saying other companies are bad, and I like Pioneer, just that if you look at many categories most brands tend to fluctuate, while Panasonic stays near the top in all electronics.

One more thing to Pioneer Guy. Plasmas do not break more often than LCDs. In fact the repair rates are nearly the same. You are also more likely to see a dead pixel on and LCD than a plasma. Furthermore most 1080p LCDs do not match the 100,000 life of the 1080p Plasmas. Also, when it comes to hdmi cables, you do not have to spend a bunch of money. You just have to find one that it decently constructed, and that’s it. The picture quality will be the same, as hdmi is an all digital connection

If you do a google search for.. plasma repair records your see that plasmas do break down a lot more than LCDs or any other type of tvs too! As for all HDMI cables being the same…I did think they were all about the same UNTIL I tried Wegrzyn’s pure 4N SOLID-CORE SILVER HDMI cable!..Sure, these Wegrzyn HDMI cables cost a lot $328.00 > only if you are a audiogon member do you get this 50% discount. I’m using a 1 meter of AudioQuest vdm-5 pure silver coax with f-type connectors hooked-up to my DirecTV HD receiver for the incoming signal from my satellite dish but I will soon be replacing that with Wegrzyn’s digital coax with f-type connectors…

Pokerbrat
Went to Brandsmart last week…the are selling the 54 V10 for 1899.00….what are you going to do. as they are proably getting ready to sell the 58 V10

Jerry Steinmetz
I bought a 58″ not a 54″ V10 for $2099. So what I am I going to do? Nothing. (Except watch US Open on ESPN HD!!!!)

328$ for a hdmi cable….you got to be kidding…I refuse to beleive it matters.

Get the 15$ one and take your wife out to dinner and order a few BD movies.

Steve P., it really does matter! I know $328 is a lot money for just a HDMI cable but it was worth it for me!.. You can also SEE a DIFFERENCE when you put a 1 meter of (pure silver) digital coax with F-type connectors hooked-up on your HD satellite receiver for the incoming signal from the satellite dish!.. I heard that Directv is going to go LIVE with 1080p signal.. for all of their 1080i channels SOON!

HDMI cables are digital and therefore (almost) inmune to the EMI noise found around most homes. If you can notice picture quality differences when using different HDMI cables -of equal length- between your TV (any TV) and your 1080p player, then the visual artifacts point to an inability of the TV to properly correct the “errors” resulting from the wire/termination impedance and shielding differences. Well constructed cables with high quality connectors will ensure good electrical contact and mechanical integrity over the life of the product. Extremely cheap cables -of any kind, digital or analog- (so cheap and crappy you wouldn’t want to use them) use inferior conductor metals, inferior insulation material -that decays in a few months- and often poor shielding with crappy plating on its pins.
Those very crappy cables should be avoided.

Now, why would anyone want to use a coax cable connection between the source (satellite receiver)and the display ?

Either the receiver is such piece of crap it doesn’t even have HDMI outputs, or the person hooking it up doesn’t know what he/she is doing.

x_acto, NO, your NOT putting the silver coax at the connection between the source (satellite receiver) and the (display). You hook-up the silver coax cable to the cable coming from the satellite dish INSIDE your house. The cable that is already hooked-up to the satellite receiver (The satellite input (hook-up) of he satellite receiver) you just unhook the that cable and then put the 1 meter of pure solid-core silver digital coax with F-type connectors hooked in at the satellite input of the satellite receiver first then you just hook-up the other cable to the silver coax cable. I’m starting to get some feedback on my (Teflon Tape Tweak) and some say.. its the real deal…. http://www.audioasylum.com/audio/tweaks/messages/16/165315.html

Last years 850 model had Studio ref 24, and the 800 had THX instead. Did they drop the studio ref 24 and only go for the THX Mode? or does this v series give you both?

I agree, it’s all about the construction of the cable, if you don’t have the proper insulation and shielding then your going to get interference and a crappy signal, Keeping in mind to get a well constructed cable your going to pay for it.

Just make sure it’s not a no name brand.

Just picked up the 54 V10 today @ Best Buy for $1899.00 with delivery and 36 months intrest free payments! This was the best deal I found hands down but just wondering why the prices have gone down so drasticlly and if they’re going to continue to plummet since they also give you a 30 day price guarantee. I’m posting this comment using the V10 54 as a computer monitor thru a HDMI connection from my laptop and I must say the display looks INCERDBLE in 1080p!

Does anyone knows the proper break in method for this TV?

PS: I’m also reciving a $75 dollar rewards zone certificate for this purchase thru my Best Buy credit card bringing the total price down to $1825!!!

Anyone buying a plasma hdtv needs to get an extended warranty! EVEN Consumer Reports says, you should get an extended warranty if you buy a Plasma hdtv OR Laptop Computer and they do a lot testing on these plasmas too. I CAN’T WAIT…DirecTV will go LIVE with 1080P for all their channels in 2 or 3 months from NOW!………….

Anyone that wants to try my teflon tape tweak here’s some photos on how you do this tweak… http://www.audioasylum.com/audio/tweaks/messages/16/165450.html

Does all this praise for the TC-P54V10 apply to the TC-P50V10

Has anybody seen a detailed review of the TC-P58V10? I am aware that unlike the TC-P54V10, the 58 it doesn’t have the “one sheet of glass” design but are there any other relevant differences? Does the 58 have the same picture quality?

I’m not a video-phile or expert – thats why I came here. I’m very interested in the tc-p54v10 but it doesn’t seem to be sold at many places. The cheaper less capable S1 and G series are around, and the S14 at Costco, but I’d like to see the V10. It seems not to be at major “big box” stores, and even online its at a fraction of places compared to the other lines. Why – simply cost makes it not mass market ?

Moe, $1899 on the 54, sure you didn’t get the 50V10??? It’s $2399 at BB for the 54V10.

I see PINEERGUY is still pushing expensive HDMI cables. Go for it folks if you want to waste your money. Side by side comparisons of the same set one with expensive HDMI cables and one with cheaper ones showed no difference and any sane person who knows video will tell you that at AVS forum etc… Oh well I’ll just enjoy my 54V10 and 42700U and cheaper HDMI cables. Anyone on the fence I strongly suggest to get a V10 plasma. I’ve had mine now since the first of July. Great set.

Phillip, BUT nobody has done side by side comparisions with Wegrzyn’s HDMI cables yet!!!..

PIONEERGUY
Where did you heart about DirecTV going 1080p? They still have to go to 200 HD nationwide cahnnels, as they say when you are on hold with them……

Many lousy comments of a salesman try to steer people toward expensive HDMI cable. Pure Elitist mindset.

Jerry, DirecTV told me about this when I asked them about it. They told me that they were testing the 1080P software out right now on a few DIRECtv receivers and in a few months they would be downloading the software for the 1080P signal for all the newer DirecTV receivers…

Upgrading my Philips 42″ Plasma wall mount to the Panasonic TC-P54V10 or TC-P50V10 this fall. After researching numerous expert reviews and customer feedback this plasma appears to be a good value while providing high end quality performance. No stores in Southern New Mexico carry the Panasonic V10 to review, placing critical reliance on reviews such as yours before buying sight unseen.

Currently I am using a ONKYO TX-805 receiver to pass HDMI from my Dish Network VIP 722 HD Receiver/DVR and LGBD390 Blu-Ray Player over one single in-wall HDMI Cable (25′). I would like to take advantage of the Viera Link if possible vs. using multiple remotes. I have not found any technical support documentation that addresses single HDMI vs. Multiple HDMI cables to TV when using high end receivers such as ONKYO or DENON. Which is the best option?

The ONKYO receiver manual addresses option to link remote functions with a Panasonic EZ Sync-capable TV operations with TV, Receiver & DVD, etc. Panasonic manual however does not address EZ Sync-capable interface with receivers. Does TC-54V10 offer this capability?

HDMI cable can be expensive especially if investing in a Monster HDMI Cable up to 25 feet. I am not adverse to having an additional HDMI cable run in-wall to TV however want to maintain the highest possible single. With so many options, I am not sure which HDMI cable offers the highest quality and best performance for cable runs up to 25 feet.

David

HHgregg and Brandsmart are both selling the 54V10 for around 1,900. $1,900 is only 20% off MSRP and is the true market price for the 54V10. Try to bring in a printed quote to Best Buy and they will price match. I purchased my 54V10 from the Sugar Land Best Buy for $1,922 on 09/18/2009 after they saw my price quote from Panasonic Direct. I also purchased the Oppo BD-83 and it works great with my V10. Audioholics has a great bundle deal (Oppo Blu Ray player with the Yamaha 1065 receiver). good luck!

Purchased TCP58V10 at Brandsmart on 9/5/09 for $2198.88 just got delivered on Monday.

I am just not finding these prices that people are stating! I am trying to buy the 50v10, and the lowest price I have found is $1730 with shipping

I bought a TC-P54V10 in early September.
I live in Canada so I paid almost twice what a person in the U.S would pay. I
spent a further 329 dollars for a five year warranty.
The place I bought it said for an additional
3,700 they would give me the 60 inch Elite Pioneer
Kuro 141F. Pioneer is going out of business and I
have just paid off my V10. With Pioneer out of the picture, Panasonic will be top dog for Plasma
televisions followed by Samsung and LG. I don’t
want to spend over 7,300.00 for a Kuro!!!!!!!
I’ll be happy with what I have. Looking on
the bright side. If my TV self destructs in the
4th year of my 5 year warranty, Panasonic will
have to give me second from the top Plasma as a
replacement. It’s a win win situation.
I would recommend this machine for any serious Videophile.
Michael Norris

The TC-P54V10 deserves 5 stars and will replace the
Pioneer Kuro. I really do wish there was parity
between US and Canadian prices. If there was,
thousands of Canadians would be purchasing HDTV’s
and not holding on to there money. If I had my way
every one would own a flat panel television.
Michael Norris
ps our dollar is now at 93 cents American. Maybe
wages in the States are not as high as in Canada.
I highly doubt that but if so between that and a
population 10 times as big as Canada the US wins
the price war. I go to Amazon.com and they say
they can ship anywhere in North America. As soon
as I put in my postal code and they realize I live
in Canada, up comes a message
If Canadian prices ever come down to US prices
there will be a buying frenzy for Flat Panels like
you’ve never seen before.

The NEW king of TV’s Samsung UNB8500

The UNB8500 suckd, overpriced and off angle viewing terrible.

I am having problem connecting my V10 to internet…There is a error related to DNS…I would appreciate any help. Thanks

Any reviews or news on the TC-P65V10? Any idea when they will start shipping?

Carl:
Do not know about the V10, but my friend just bought a 65S1 for $2300.00 at Best Buy. He used a price for an e-tailer to get it…

Carl:
Sorry for the typo…it should read “they used a price from an e-tailer to get it;’. They price matched + 10%

I purchased the Panasonic TC-P54V10 in July 2009.
I previously had a Pansonicic 42″ plasma monitor.
This set 54″ is by far the best plasma to date.
The picture is superb!
It has an ample number of inputs and the features are fantastic.
It was well worth the $2200 price tag.

Hi folks,

I’m trying to decide between the 65″ Panasonic V10 and the less expensive Samsung PN63B590T5 63″. The difference in cost is about 1k.

Samsung: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=9315564&st=9315564+9396496+&lp=2&type=product&cp=1&id=1218085600597

Panasonic: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=9396496&type=product&id=1218112405076

I’m building a 7.1 home theater system.

Can anyone tell me why the Panasonic would be worth the extra 1k?? Both have PC inputs, 1080p, 4 HDMI slots…

The V10 has wireless, and is about 1 inch bigger. Is that it??

If the Samsung is 1k less expensive, where’s the catch?

Pioneerguy,
In my opinion you are suffering from the placebo effect. You read stuff telling you how buying expensive cables are better, or wrapping Teflon tape around the pins of plugs will make a difference. You see or hear these differences because you’ve been influenced. Unless you use some sort of blind experiment methodology, I think anything you’ve written should be taken with a grain of salt. The vast majority of reviewers, testers, professionals, etc. all agree that high-dollar MDMI cables will not improve picture quality one iota, certainly not for any home setting where cable lengths are short. Now, if you or anyone else wants to buy $300 cables because there is nothing else to play with, go ahead. But don’t try any convince people it will make a difference when it has been PROVEN that it will not.

Even $15 is expensive for an hdmi cable, go on ebay and get those $1-2 dollar hdmi cables.

HDMI is digital, 1 or 0. You either get the signals at their best and only quality or you don’t get the signals at all, period.

Cable quality influencing picture quality dates back to analog era when cable length, materials, crafting did influence a lot on the final picture outpout.

By the way, the g10 50″ is recently dropped to near $1000 bucks on amazon, but v10 is still more like $1800. :/

PIONEERGUY,

It is better to remain quiet and be thought an idiot than to use your keyboard and remove all doubt.

The only way to really test two HDMI cables to see what cable is really better is to freeze frame the HD picture and then compare the two HDMI cables looking at that still picture with both HDMI cables. Then you can clearly see FINE DETAILS MISSING in that still picture and FADED LOOKING COLORS TOO, when you compare Wegrzyn’s pure solid silver HDMI cable to other HDMI cables…..

PIONEERGUY,

I have an aluminum foil hat just for you for only $500. It is made from a special expensive aluminum foil. The hat will shield your brain from electromagnetic radiation coming from space. It will also improve HD picture quality you see much better than any ~$400 HDMI cable.

I also have a Brooklyn bridge just for you on sale — one bridge in good condition, only for you, half price.

In Seattle Video Only is selling the 54″ V10 for $1800 and throwing in a free Blu-Ray player with the package. Since I hate Video Only’s sales staff I went to Magnolia Hi-Fi and they price matched.

54″ V10, Panasonic Blu-Ray –> $1800 + tax (damn you tax!)

I did get to listen to the sales guy tell me about how I should get at LEAST a $75 HDMI cable and if I was really serious that I should get the $150 cable. He obviously didn’t know what he was talking about because he didn’t even KNOW about $300 Wegrzyn cables!!!

Sorry, couldn’t resist.

No very many people know about Wegrzyn’s HDMI cables but the ones that have tried them say they are the best on the market! http://cgi.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/fb.pl?user=Wegrzyn11 … http://wallywire.com

Two issues: (1) I have been trying to decide between the TC-P54G10 and the TC-P54V10. As a member of NEA, I get a get a pretty good discount compared to what I’ve been reading on this forum. For the TC-P54G10 it will cost $1,440 with free shipping, and the TC-P54V10 will cost $1,728 with free shipping. Since this is direct, I am thinking that both of these come with no sales tax, either.

So, question #1 is, do most of you think that the almost $300 price difference is worth purchasing the V10 over the G10?

Question #2 I hope is not a dumb question. I know that the sound on TV’s in general are not great, which is why, year’s ago, I purchased a surround sound system for my old TV. This system is now about 15 years old, but it sounds great! I have one front speaker under where the TV goes, two speakers on the front left and front right, and two mini speakers in the back left and right to enhance the surround sound/effects type of stuff.

My sound system is basically a Yamaha RX-V670 receiver that is plugged into my old 32″ tube TV and into the five speakers (back when 5 in 1 was new). Will this sound system be compatible with my new TV? It obviously does not have HDMI inputs; but if the sound is far superior to the sound system that comes with the TV, will it hook up correctly and work the same way as it does now?

Pioneer stoped making plasma HDTVs to make OLED HDTVs in 2011…….”OLED is the FUTURE”!

Just received my TC-P54V10. WoW is the best description. THX display is outstanding right out of box. Used the CNET calibration and adjustment using the Spears & Munsil Blu-ray calibration DVD to tune settings. Picture is even more outstanding. TV is connedted to my 805 Onkyo Reciver with audio out to receiver. Vira Link though not advertised identified my reciver and Dish V222 Reciver when turning remote on / off. A nice plus. LG BD390 Blu-ray was not identified by remote. But still learning how to set up set — who knows may get lucky. Bottom line — based on my experience this last week — the TC-P54V10 is more than worth the extra few bucks.

hi guys ! i want to pick up the V10 54″… viewing distance is 8-9 ft, would u guys recommend the 54″ then?

Pioneer making OLED HDTVs in 2011… http://www.highdefjunkies.com/showthread.php?t=1831 . Robert Zohn owner of http://www.valueelectronics.com talks about it on page 2

Hey PIONEERGUY,

I have just finished testing Wegrzyn’s HDMI cable in the lab. I am sorry, but the cable is a piece of junk.

The best cable is Gold Plated Shielded Connectors Mediabridge Ultra Series Version 1.3 Category 2 Certified – 1080p – Blu-Ray – PS3

It is currently on sale at Amazon for $10
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0019EHU8G/?tag=hc005-20

@ Ashish Bajoria

A rule of thumb:

Minimum size = Viewing distance/3
Maximum size=Viewing distance/1.5

54″ will be perfect

Guys have any advice on the TC-P65S1 vs the V10 of the same model. There is a huge price difference of 1600 dollars which is making me go to the S1. I figure the only real feature I’d miss is the 96hz cinematic. Thoughts?

Thanks

@ Billy

Did you consider G15 models — significantly less expensive alternative to V10?

G15 has elegant slim design and single glass like V10 (photo of G15 on Panasonic website looks identical to V10). G15 technical characteristics are identical to G10 (G10 is almost like V10 only without Digital Cinema Color and 24p Cinematic Playback [it has 24p Playback[2:3]).

@Vittorio. The G models look fine but I believe you cannot get one in 65 inches. That is a must have for me since I am upgrading from a 60 in LCD RPTV from 2004 (Sony KF60WE610)

I want to know how much of an issue burn-in is with this Panasonic Plasma TV or most other plasma…
how far is this true ?

For movie watching burn-in is not much of an issue; however it is a serious issue when watching television.
All sports and news shows have crawlers above and or below the picture where they stream information, scores, news, etc. Although the content is moving, the box it moves in is not and remains fixed in the same place.
Also ALL channels – cable and network – now have their station logo permanently affixed in either the lower right or left corner of the screen for the duration of the show. Some, such as the History Channel are quite large with bright vivid colors. Since these stationary logos are usually in the same area of the screen, regardless of channel, these areas can burn in for hours every night.

thoughts ?
As a consequence, my 2008 Panny 40″, now has “smudges” in those areas of the screen.

What the heck happened with prices?? The 54v10 is $2300+ now at brandsmart and amazon and the other places listed in the above comments. Am I looking in the wrong places??

Need help, can’t make up my mind between 54G10 and 54V10. I can get the 54G10 for about $1470 out the door and the 54V10 for $1900 out the door. I guess the question is, is the extra 430 worth it for the V10? Need help as I need to buy one quickly!

Dave, where are you seeing 54v10 for $1900 out the door?

I went with the S1 over the V10 due to a long wait in the 65 inch size. It was also at least 6-700 more. I figure I can play with the settings and it will look good either way.

The price diff for a 50″ G10 vs 50″ V10 is around $600 right now – is it worth the upgrade to go with the V10?

This may not be important to many people, but Im really pissed the panny’s dont support full res on PC input. Hello, um games! The samsungs do. WTF is the matter with panny? I was all set to get a v10, but this issue is a deal breaker for me. I thought the panny looked better (but dimmer) than samsung.
In fact I was really impressed. It must have been in THX mode it looked so natural. but again wth is up with max 1366×768 for PC? dammit!

Pioneerdude,

You must own or have a vested interest in Wegrzyn. Cable quality varies with manufacturer however transmission quality of a digital signal is generally unaffected by cable material or construction unless it was so poorly constructed that it doesn’t work.

Paying $100 for a HDMI cable versus $10 is not too bright, especially when the general consensus says there is no difference between them.

I was chatting with a major cable manufacturer who supplies HDMI cables as well as many others to a major retailer. On sales of $36 million there was a net profit of $35 million. So tell me again about your exceptionally well performing cable that noticeably improves the picture quality.

Pioneerguy

Do you know anything about cable testing? It’s done independently from any factors that could skew the results, lets say for example, hooking them up to a video source. Are you truly this dumb or just uninformed?

You truly need a tin foil hat to prevent the aliens from frying your brain any more.

Of course I agree that cables is pretty much cables. Same scam goes on with analog audio. At least there is a difference in performance between them, but its a sad joke of a marginal improvement that you could NEVER hear no matter how golden your ears. Speaking of BS, BoSe is the no.1 of all BSers. They make crappy to mediocre speakers etc. and charge a premium. Instead of spending their money on producing quality, they spend it on
marketing lies, gimmicks, and unabashed self-promotion. Their ‘tech’ is just gimmicks that they tell eveyone is amazing. Ask any audio professional or engineer. You’ll seldom see any Bose in the studio, or in their homes. I think many people know all this, but just thought I might save some people some time, and maybe money.
I’m not saying some of their stuff won’t suffice for casual listener, I’m saying its mediocre at best and always priced like it’s something special. It definately aint.

Anbody have a G10 or V10 with PC connected through HDMI? I’d really like to know if it goes full 1920×1080 that way. (cuz as I said b4 is doesnt do that using VGA input) TIA

NOT EVEN the new top of the line Premiere series.. THE Panasonic 65VX100U > $10,000 can match the perforance of the Pioneer Elite Plasmas ! …. http://www.ultimateavmag.com/flatpaneldisplay/panasonic_th-65vx100u_plasma_monitor/

I just bought the 54V10 and it’s unreal to say the least. I went and adjusted the setting to cnet’s specs and it really is amazing. Just an FYI I have the tv in the living room which has a huge picture window and the tv still looks great during the day. This was a concern for me so I wanted to share that info with people that are worried about that too. What I really need help with is regarding the 100 hour break in period. The only articles I see on the net about this is all older articles (2007 and earlier) Do I need to do this dvd process? Also should I be afraid of my settings being too bright with less then 100hrs? Let’s stop talking about $300 HDMI cables and help a new plasma owner Thanks in advance for any info.. and ty HDGURU for this review. I once read having choices is nice, but not having to make one is better. After reading your review the choice was simple.

Im sort of a professional fighting games player, it took them preety seriously, at least for my knowledge of how the game works, and in games like Tekken 6 and SF4 por PS3, a difference of one frame of input lag can make the difference between winning a $6000 1st place price and $1000 2nd place price. With that in maind, HDGURU or anyone else, could you either test or post your findings in this V10 tv or any other tv that has the best of both worlds, pic quality and input lag free or 1 frame/9 ms or less? Thx in advance

I can get a good price on this TV and can’t wait to get it but. I am debating whether to buy the 54 inch or 58 inch or…. go all out and get the 65 inch model. This might be a dumb question but I was wondering if there is any difference at all in picture quality between the models?

Also in the review you mentioned the Soap Opera Effect (SOE) that you find on many LCDs. I think I read it right, are you saying that SOE does not exist with the V10 series (it preserves the film look)

Thanks for the help.

Also one more question, what would you recommend for a good surround sound system. I can get a good discount from Panasonic. Do you recommend any of their models?

Just purchased Panny 54V10…what are the settings everyone is using? Custom is my favorite, but I continue to screw around with all of the different settings. Can anyone help me out?

JUSTIN and others mention being able to get a good price for this TV.. please post WHERE. Thank you!

I am going to buy a 54″ Panasonic plasma within the next few weeks. I am torn between the V10 and G10. If you had to lay down your own money, which set would you buy? Does the V10′s 24p Cinematic Playback justify the extra cost?

Ben: I got a V10 because I watch only movies. No TV.
Regarding cables:
As a PhD electrical engineer and expert in digital signal processing and communications (and audiophile for 40 years), I can assure you that expensive cables are a gimmick. As long as the HDMI cable’s connectors are of decent quality, buy it.
With so-called “digital” signals, either the signal is transmitted/detected with a sufficiently low bit-error rate (BER) to transfer the information, or it doesn’t. With error-correcting codes, the raw BER can be fairly high before you would have a problem. (BTW, all electromagnetic signals are analog, hence my reference to “so-called”).
The conductors (copper vs. silver) and the quality of the dielectric (internal insulation, having an impact on signal loss, dispersion, and impedance matching) are of little consequence unless you have such a long cable that propagation loss or signal dispersion become an issue. For a typical 6 foot cable, this is not an issue. Signal dispersion, losses, and EMI will increase BER once they reach a certain threshold, but this does not generally justify insanely-priced cables.
I love my V10!

I am sold in regard to the issue of the HDMI. There is no reason to buy an expensive HDMI cable. My question is whether there is a difference between using HDMI or component cable in the panni p50v10

Thanks in advance

Purchased a TPC58V10 the other day to replace a DLP set I was displeased with before the bulb burned out.

The first problem was that my LG 390 bluray switches to a psychedelic version of the picture once it completes its initial bootup when connected through my older Yamaha receiver. So I had to get a new receiver.

The second problem is with displaying images from Windows XP using a 3400 series display card with an HDMI output. Neither of the two size settings will fill the screen. The picture is fuzzy enough that I have to select large fonts in Windows. It is apparent that the dot clock is off because the visual effect is the same as on other displays when the dot clock is off. Unfortunately there does not seem to be any dot clock adjustment.

Is the v10 close but no cigar?

i just purchased my 58v10 last night, delivery on friday!! $1999 open box any recommendations on tv stands for this tv? are the break in slides included with tv, and make that much of a difference? calibration worth it? thank you!! happy watching!!

Can anyone tell me????
I just had the 55″ Samsung 7100 for 3 weeks and took it back! It was giving me migraines the LED and flashing was triggering my migains!! I trade in for a Panasonic 54V10 so far I really like it looks so much Richer in design besides the power button and little red light and I don’t care for the silver strip @ the bottom! But I guess I like the all black and touch power buttons or at least put it on the side.
I wish Panasonic would make a more modern classy menu it looks kind of genaric it’s the same as there DvD player! But that all small stuff the main thing is the picture!!
The one question I have if someone can help??
I’m watching Blue Ray movies and it has a snowy grain is this normal? It’s my first Plasma and The samsung was really clear but some movies to clear that it looked like a home shot B movie that someone called Soap box Tv look (which I hated and can not change on the samsung)
but I don’t know if it is because I watched that for 3 weeks that I notice the grainny look on the Panasanic?? Or is there a setting on the Tv and Blue Ray to make this more clear?? I’m going to wait 3 months and have it calaborated , does anyone know if this will also make things much clear?
The colors are much more relistic than the samsung and the samsung was why to bright I even had the backlighting on “0″ and the brightness way down and contests at 50% it really bothered my eyed and messed with my eyes causing migraines and made my stomach upset!! But I suffer from migraine so this might not happen fir others! So I hope this helps with anyones questions between Samsunds LEDs and Panasonics Plazma! Now if someone can help with settings for the Panisonic and Blue Ray ( useing Samsungs new blur Ray player) and going threw an New Onkyo reciever!! Thanks!

HDMI cables even though I got a great deal on 900 monster cables from best buy with the Tv I got a 16′ and 4 ‘ for $ 40 each so I couldn’t beat that when the 16′ was $140 and $80 for the 4′ ! But as far as my experience the $ 40 cables from Sams club work just as good and monster makes Rockfish for BB!
Just don’t get the Real cheap $12-$20 ones there is a differnce and they kind of fall apart after a while, I don’t know how but they do I pulled out my old cheap cords when I upgraded to this new system and alot the cheap cables just were falling apart ? I don’t know if it’s from heat and years of sitting there but my old monster and SAMs club Optical are just fine actually the Sams club one held up even better and the sound and video are just as good! These are my first Hdmi cables! I have 2 monster one from my Samsung Blue Ray to raciever and one from reciever to the Tv and then one $40 one from my Panny DVD player and the picture is the same from both using a regular non Blue Ray movie with upconvert!
So I’d say if you can’t get an deal from the dealer which most will do if buying a $2000 Tv then get the $40 cables but not the cheap ones from Walmart!!

Only other thing Panny needs to make a better manual and be more clear !! But I’d rather have a Great Tv rather than a manual but come on it’s not that hard to write a better Manual! For the 54 V10 it was not made clear what was front and back and right and left to put in the stand fir one thing! So I just tryed it both ways to make sure, even though it will be mounted on the wall soon! Would also be nice to have a base that turns on the 54 ” like the Samsung!
But that does not matter if it is going on the wall !

We just bought the 54v10, however for 400 bucks more I can get the 58v10. MY questions is, is it worth it? Also is their any major differences between the two? I heard the 54 has a single pane while the 58 has 2. Any other major differences that will alter the picture quality? thanks

PIONEERGUY has been quiet for a coupla months, which is good. I just want to join other voices of sanity in pointing out the error of his ridiculous claims.

After writing many diatribes on Gucci HDMI cables and the absolute need for extended warranties, he further ruined his credibility by touting Voodoo tweaks like Teflon tape on power cords to reduce heat (use enough tape and the set will generate no heat at all!).

The only way to quantify performance differences between video cables is to MEASURE. Subjective observations are notoriously prone to bias, as in, “These cables cost $400, so they BETTER be good!” If any difference in cable performance is immediately obvious by eyeball, like his “video noise” claim, then you sure don’t need a Kuro to see it. And the mere assertion that silver co-ax cables improve performance is complete lunacy: It’s RF, fer Pete’s sake!

Does PIONEERGUY coat his CDs with a blue Sharpie to reduce high-frequency shrillness? Or did he eschew CDs altogether because LPs sound more “natural?” Does he use only vacuum tube amplifiers to avoid “transistor sound?”

I suspect, as have other contributors, that PIONEERGUY is easily swayed by lunatic fringe pseudo-science and black magic. I suspect even more strongly that he is actually Wally Wegrzyn, just tryin’ to make a living selling grossly overpriced cables.

I see NOTHING about the BLACK LEVEL issues posted by C-NET that was first found on AVSFORUM.

Are you going to do this for the benefit of people who seem to be ignorant of the existence and value of AVSFORUM ? I hope you will, because it would otherwise be a disservice to consumers who are trusting of your reviews.

We responded days ago to a comment regarding the issue in the comments section of the 2010 Panasonic post. Here’s the link.

HD Guru

What I was suggesting is that you do not withdraw your rating. However, these points need to be UPDATED in the main article as CNET has responsibly done. Not buried in comments where most consumers are going to overlook it.

Btw, the link you posted regd the THX fix is wrong. It DID NOT fix it and it was the same version pushed out via Vieracast. There was a 2nd version of 1.28 released privately to some customers via SD card, others via a new a-board and still others who pulled that THX zip file from the techtraining site of Panny before they pulled it. THAT link fixed the THX issue in large part.

Basically, the only way a consumer will know about this issue with 2009 models is IF they read your part 2 which deals with 2010 models. AND then they read the comments which pertain to 2009 models. Makes sense ?

Does anyone know if there is a diagnostic/menu feature on the TC-P58V10 that indicates number of power on hours? I was considering purchasing a display model at my local Best Buy. Thanks!

CNET’s LATEST FINDING ON PANASONIC BLACK LEVELS

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-10462105-1.html?tag=mncol

but will 3D tv take over the world now is the question…