
Thin is in at Samsung. The company’s new 6000, 7000 and 8000 LED backlit series measure a svelte 1.2″ deep. These sets just about disappear when viewed from the side. The top of the line 8000 series, available in both 46†($3199.99) and 55†($3999.99) versions, adds true 240Hz refresh rate to the feature-packed 7000 series. Samsung calls these sets “LED TVs,†but exactly what does that mean?
What It Isn’t ![]()
While Samsung identifies these new, thin sets as “LED TVs†in its ads and on the shipping cartons, and while its website proclaims “a new HDTV technology…,” this is simply not the case.
These sets use conventional LCD (liquid crystal display) technology. White LEDs (light emitting diodes) mounted around the bezel edge, instead of more conventional means of illumination, provide panel backlighting.
There are true LED displays, of course, like Mitsubishi’s Diamond Vision and Panasonic’s Astrovision, used as giant outdoor displays in stadiums and in New York’s Times Square, that utilize up to 30 million red, blue and green LEDs to produce a full-color HD image.
Best Buy piles on, mimicking Samsung’s advertising in its weekly circular, listing these sets as LED HDTVs, while other LCD-based sets are identified as “LCD HDTVs.†In-store shelf tags also identify the televisions as “LED HDTVs†(see photos).


LED backlighting is hardly new technology. Sony introduced the first LED backlit LCD HDTVs in Japan over five years ago and the first in the US in 2005. Sony first introduced edge-mounted LED LCD TVs in 2008.
So, despite Samsung’s position, large flat screen HDTVs continue to use one of two technologies: LCD and plasma. LCD sets not using LED backlighting, use fluorescent lamps (usually a type known as CCFL). So, should you choose to buy one of these ultra-thin new Samsungs, keep in mind you’re not buying “new technology,†never mind a scaled down version of a Diamond Vision football stadium display!
What It Is
As previously stated, the UN46B8000 has a refresh rate of 240Hz for improved motion resolution. Unlike some other vendors touting 120 Hz displays with scanning backlights as 240 Hz, this Samsung uses twin MEMC (motion estimation motion compensation) chips to achieve a true 240 Hz refresh rate. The chips create interpolated frames between actual source frames. Movie film moves at a rate of 24 frames per second. To achieve 240 Hz, film frames must either be repeated ten times, or new frames created (via signal processing) by interpolating two adjacent frames to create intermediate ones. The test results appear in the performance section below.
Inputs include an Ethernet jack (for access to select internet widgets and websites), a USB jack (for viewing compatible still photo, video files and music files and to add firmware updates), 4 HDMI inputs, 1 component video input with L/R audio, 1 composite input with L/R audio input and a 15 pin Sub D (analog) PC input. There is no S-video input.
Note that due to the shallow depth of this Samsung, the 8000′s HDMI inputs require sideways insertion at the panel’s rear edge. The connectors are spaced more closely than on any other set tested. While it’s a tight fit, all but one HDMI cable we tried had sufficient room for insertion. It’s likely, though, that there are other HDMI cables on the market that may be too fat to fit. Inserting an internet connected Ethernet cable into the “RJ45′ type jack enabled the 8000 to quickly self-configure, allowing use of Yahoo widgets for on-screen sports news and weather, as well as Flickr and other selected websites.

The UN46B8000 has four picture modes (Dynamic for showrooms, Standard, Natural and Movie) Except as otherwise noted, measurements and picture evaluations were made in the Movie mode, which was deemed as the most accurate.
There are a plethora of user settings in addition to normal picture settings (i.e. Brightness, Color, and Contrast etc.), including Dynamic contrast (buries darker areas into black and crushes lighter areas), Black tone (darkens darker areas but also buries dark detail), Flesh tone (makes skin redder) and Edge Enhancement (produces more distinct edges without halos) For the most accurate image set these controls to “offâ€Â.
The remote control is large with lit buttons. Hot buttons include “content” for internet widget activation as well as a media player (via USB) and picture size (6 aspect ratios including a 1:1 called “wide fit”).
The screen bezel is finished in gloss black with a chrome-type edge. The 8000 includes a brushed aluminum swivel stand. It weighs in at just 39.5 lbs. (without stand).
Performance
The edge-mounted rows of LEDs produce a level of performance with both distinct advantages and disadvantages compared to conventional behind-the-LCD panel light sources. The major advantages of this configuration are low energy consumption, a very thin form factor and high image brightness. The UN46B8000 uses less energy than any large screen HDTV flat panel we’ve ever tested. In the “Dynamic” retail showroom mode it consumed just 148 watts with an on-center screen brightness of 79 ft. lamberts (the dynamic setting defaults to the “backlight” of 10, the maximum). The “Home” mode default is called “Standard” mode, (with a preset “5″ level backlight control setting) and consumed 123 watts. The “Movie” mode with the backlight set to “1″ consumed just 94 watts, with a brightness of 22.3 ft lamberts. Unlike rear mounted LEDs, which can change brightness within zones where the image darkens, the edge mounted design requires a steady intensity. This results in a steady power meter reading, and creates a direct correlation between the level of black and ultimate brightness. The best compromise is a backlight setting of “1″. Lowering the control to “0″ made the image too dim, while raising it caused blacks to lighten. The “1″ setting was fine for evening or day viewing with window shades; however, daytime viewing in rooms without window treatment may require a higher backlight setting to provide a sufficiently bright image, sacrificing deep black levels. The black level is quite low, though not as deep as our reference Pioneer Pro-141FD plasma
Getting the LED white light to travel from the edges to behind the LCD panel requires an optical wave guide that twists the light 90 degrees. This is no easy feat to perfect and Samsung hasn’t managed to completely nail it: screen uniformity wasn’t perfect when viewing a full white screen test pattern. On rare occasions, when viewing content with white areas at the top or bottom edge (see photo, note red circle is a room lamp reflection not the TV) or a blue sky, this non-uniformity gave the screen edge a schmutzy (dirty) appearance.

Viewing angle is another LCD issue, and this LED-lit LCD is no exception. Blacks appear lighter and whites darker as one moves off axis, either vertically or horizontally. While this effect is visible with all LCD displays, the fall off is greater with the LED edge-lit 8000. Measuring brightness at 20 degrees horizontal off dead center revealed a brightness decrease of 15%, along with lighter blacks. Whether or not this is an issue, depends upon your viewing distance and the width of your viewing area.
The 8000′s performance shined in areas of signal processing, motion resolution, noise reduction and gray scale accuracy, passing all the standard definition HQV tests for 3:2 Film detection, detail and noise reduction. It also passed the HD HQV deinterlacing 1080i signals and film cadence tests with the 8000 set to Film Mode 1. Warm 2 color temperature was near the industry D6500 standard and fine-tuned near perfection using the 8000′s “White Balance” control with the aid of signal generator and a Photo Research spectroradiometer.
There are two controls for the 8000s “Auto Motion Plus” 240Hz circuitry. Access is available by using the “Custom” mode (the other modes are factory presets and “off”). The first control labeled “Blur Reduction” can reduce or eliminate motion blur with video based sources such as live sports, newscasts, reality TV and some scripted series. The second control is called “Judder Reduction”, it smoothes out horizontal pans of film based sources (movies and many scripted TV series) eliminating the stutter present on other displays and supposedly reduces motion blur, though this is difficult to confirm. Unfortunately there is no objective test material currently available to quantify the amount of blur reduction with 24 fps source material.
Using the video-based FPD test disc, the “Blur Reduction” set to “0″ produced a motion resolution of 320 lines, the same as seen on most 60 Hz LCDs. Increasing the control to the “5″ position measured 630 lines of motion resolution, about the same result as most 120 Hz LCD flat panels previously measured. Cranking the control to the maximum “10″ position produced full 1080 line resolution. The only trade-offâ€â€a slight horizontal streakingâ€â€is more apparent as the control setting is increased. This was only noticeable close-up on light objects featuring dark details such as black lettering on a white street sign, or a girl’s dark lipstick against her light face as she swings on a rope. Overall the effect was insignificant enough to keep the control locked at the 10 maximum.
The “Judder Reduction” control makes pans appear smoother. The trade-off was that film-based material appears more like “live video” with a smoother texture as the control setting is increased, as if the film grain has been reduced or nearly eliminated. Comparing the 8000 against our reference Pioneer Pro-141FD confirmed the video-like look, noticeable even when the control is set to “Off”! Some viewers like the improved smoothness while others (including myself) don’t. The best compromise was with the control set to position “1″.
HDTV color accuracy was excellent. With the 8000′s “Color Space” set to auto the primaries show a very slight deviation from the Rec. 709 HDTV standard. Samsung claims the colors can be precisely fine tuned using the 8000′s custom “Color Space” control; if one has the inclination and the proper test equipment.
Evaluating image quality using Verizon FIOS cable (SD and HD) and Blu-ray confirmed the UN46B8000′s ability to produced fine looking pictures. The judder reduction circuitry really smoothed out the image during fast action sequences, such as seen in the Transporter 3 Audi-Mercedes chase (Chapter 10) on Blu-ray.
The full motion resolution and overall excellent performance places the UN46B8000 at the top of all the LCD HDTVs tested. We will see if the 8000 can keep its crown when we review the current Samsung and Sony LED rear backlit models currently in queue. Despite our quibbles regarding its “new technology†advertising, this Samsung is the first HDTV to deliver the dream of a thin, light weight, bright, clear 46″ HDTV that you can easily hang on the wall like a painting. The HD Guru awards the Samsung UN46B8000 ♥♥♥.
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Does anybody out there got the netflix stream directly to the LED UNB8000 TV?
My UN46C8000 series samsung HDTV doesnt work with my cable box. I bought the TV from USA assuming that TV nowadays are multisystems and would be compatable with any video format. unfortunately when I connect the cable box to my TV the msg appears saying “mode not supported please change the resolution” I have tried everything possible from changing the settings and trying different cables and while experiencing this difficulty and frustration a friend recommended to try a NTSC PAL converter. any one with a better idea on how to solve this issue
UN55C8000: I called customer service yesterday and they deny knowing about it. Tech manager (of 5th-grade literacy level) said “all the ‘problems’ will be solved if I replace my HDMI cables with SAMSUNG-certified HDMI cables.” They refused to escalate the issue.
The PIP does not really work on all Samsung LDC’s. I bought the UN55C6300. You can’t PIP two channels. You can only use PIP with TV on one feed, and the DVD or some other source as the other picture. Quite useless – why would I want to use PIP with a DVD?
This from the Samsung support site:
Important: The information above, except for the Note, does not apply to Samsung LCD TVs that have PIP capability. Currently, all Samsung LCD TVs with PIP capability have a single tuner and are incapable of displaying two channels simultaneously, whether they are attached to a cable box or not.
I have a Samsung 46in LED TV.I just bought it 5 months ago.I noticed a series of horizontal black fine lines on my screen.Is that normal?Because when i bought the unit it wasnt there.
One more thing – BURN IN on the Plasma. Watch a TV channel for an hour. When you change the channel, you will see burn-in. Yes, it goes away pretty quickly (with 10-15 minutes), but what a pain in the ass. I can see things from the last channel I was watching for a bit. It’s annoying.
I’m no guru, but I’m trying to learn. Here’s what I’ve found. So I just bought two new TVs. Samsung 46″ UN46C6300, LED-LCD from Costco for 1699. That’s my upstairs TV. Then I bought the Samsung 50″ 3D plasma PN50C7000 for downstairs (I have a 48″ hole for my TV, and Plasma is the only 50″ TV). I have also installed both TVs downstairs under the same conditions, so I can give you direct comparison from this week.
I have highly lit room. Believe it or not, I found the Plasma to be better with regards to reflection. The LED-LCD wasn’t that bad at all. The Plasma was better.
The plasma gives off a ton of heat, the LED-LCD did not. Walk near the TV and you can feel the plasma heat. Not the case with the LED-LCD. My be a function of the size of the TVs, I don’t know, but just my observation.
I bought the Samsung 3D bluray, and a Dennon reciever capable of handling 3D with the new HDMI 1.4. I bought all brand new Monster HDMI 1.4 cables ($100.00 bucks for 1 3-foot cable). Upconversion of 2D content to 3D is pretty cool. Not sure I’ll use it too much, but it works. Not as great as Monsters Vs Aliens in 3D but it works. Looking forward to Avatar coming out in 3D soon.
But I have to tell you – so far, I am overall dissapointed with the Plasma. I keep wanting the LED-LCD back down stairs. I continue to find flaws with the picture in my plasma that I just don’t see on the LED-LCD. Picture is crisper with the LED. Plasma has bad blurrs and inperfections when watching non-HD channels that the LED doesn’t seem to have. In fact, I am probably going to return the plasma, and go for the Samsung 55″ LED-LCD 3D TV.
I would welcome any comments, as I’m still trying to figure all of this out.
I truly believe Plasma TV’s are the worst picture possible. Very Ugly compared to LED TV’s. I used to own two plasmas I could never get the Hi-Def looking as good as my LED TV, not even close. The Plasma screen is made up of a bunch of square pixels that can’t produce that crisp Hi-Def picture an LCD TV can or not even close to the Hi-Def resolution of a 8000 or 9000 series Samsung LED 240hz TV.
I keep looking at the tags that you say they’re both LED’s but it clearly says the b650 is an LCD and the b7100 is an LED. Where are you seeing that it is printed on both tags as being LED’s????????
Thin is in at Samsung. The company’s new 6000, 7000 and 8000 LED backlit series measure a svelte 1.2″ deep. These sets just about disappear when viewed from the side. The top of the line 8000 series, available in both 46†($3199.99) and 55†($3999.99) versions, adds true 240Hz refresh rate to the feature-packed 7000 series. Samsung calls these sets “LED TVs,â€Â
For those who are uncompromisingly loyal to plasmas, I have seen many tv’s in real-world play. Before recently moving on to work on outdoor cable plant, I worked on about 8 homes a day for 4 years. The best picture quality I have seen to date was once about a year and a half ago when the led-lcd’s first came out and most recently when I went on vacation and my best friend had a Samsung led-lcd. I’ve seen plenty of plasma’s and they weren’t all that great to me. In my opinion, the more significant selling point of the led-lcd’s is the lifespan of a set w/ such superb picture quality. Another thing that bugs me is that it seems to be the case that a lot of people don’t realize the flat panel “leds” are actually lcd’s. The reason I’ve found to cause this ignorance is the marketing. They differentiate regular lcd’s as such and led-lcds as “leds”. I personally have a led-dlp, and my next set will put that set in the basement for video games and whatnot(although I use it for that now), and it will be the Mitsubishi Laservue-the best picture to date. The price will be coming down soon. I’ve seen a site that was selling the 65″ for $3999. When it’s in the 2k range, it’s mine.
To avoid teleshow like look display, turn off 240 Hz thro Settings and see if it helped.
when i am watching regular tv on the series 8000, some of the mation is is jumpy. can u explain why this does this?
i have a question to ask i have a UN558000 LCD and now with the new 3d mode TVs out now .my question is my 8000 LCD compatible with this 3d mode if i purchase a new 3d bluray player. rt now i have it hook up to my PS3 consul and would i get the 3d effete ?thank you
same Problem here. Really it is very frustrating.
Same exact problem here. I just got the 40″ 800240htz and there is definately a problem with filmed images looking like hi def video – I’ve messed with the different settings to try and fix it – this works somewhat but there has to be a way to get rid of this problem – I didnt spend that much money to have my favorite films look like a 1950′s teleplay.
Hi all, i had a samsung 46”-8000 series 240hrtz, and the tv was amazing! beautiful colors and awsome picture. so i decided to traded it and upgrade to a 55”-8000!..and the picture was just as great..but i noticed those white dims on scenes that are dark on this new tv, you guys think samsung will do something about it if i call costumer service?