All images were taken today, Jan. 4, 2010 between 10:00 and 10:30 AM in my viewing room and one from another room. once again, I used Joe Kane’s Video Essential blu-ray test disk. I paused one image from the disk, set my camera on a tripod. My camera is only a point and shoot digital. I focused on the identical portion of screen for each shot. This time I used extreme viewing angles.

The first image is on axis.
http://etype2.deviantart.com/art/test-4-on-axis-149201167

The second image is in same room but in corner behind sofa, the equivalent of 5 seat cushions from center of screen about 155 degrees off axis.
http://etype2.deviantart.com/art/test-5-155-degrees-off-axis-149201482

The third image is from an adjoining room, about 170 degrees off axis.
http://etype2.deviantart.com/art/Test-6-170-degrees-off-axis-149201719

If you see small images, just left click on them for full view. As you can see, no loss in contrast, color shift, etc. I hope this helps people who read about LCD bad viewing angles. This is only my personal viewing room. Happy New Year and good viewing to all.

When LCD first started out in the 80′s they were 2, 3, 12 and 14 inch and very expensive, then they solved tech problems, the manufacturing costs came down. I expect the same evolution with OLED. I can wait a few years.

OLED is one of those technologies that may never be practical beyond certain usages such as in small displays in telephones and some computer monitors.

Thank you for your insights. I believe you.

The premature failure of my Plasma soured me to another Plasma purchase. I guess I was an unlucky one. It was a top line Pioneer. I see how Plasma’s have been improving in all areas and particularly now with non glare screens. I to am interested in top image quality. I will hold out for OLED if they can come up with LARGE panels. Once you have 65 inches, it’s hard to go down in size. It looks like we will see larger OLED panels in 2010 and beyond. Once they get the manufacturing costs down,they will take off.

I really like the Panny Plasma that is one inch thick with wireless receiver. Unfortunately to small for me, and those vertical black stripes contrast to much with the silver frame. If they were to make it in black,would look better.

I saw the halos on the 1st generation Sammy backlit LCD. Not good.

Enjoy your Panasonic Plasma.

Motion resolution is my main concern.
I’ve read your links/articles, and I wish I could agreed that motion isn’t detectable. But I can’t.

95% of the time, it’s a non-issue. But, I watch Hockey! Black puck/sticks on white ice moving at 100mph.

I first saw the blur effect with a friend@ Best Buy on an Aquos and Samsung Series 7 LCD. We both wanted new TVs, I wanted Plasma, he wanted LCD.

All TV were receiving the same HD feed with a hockey clips(Decent feed, Not too much compression.) We watched for a few minutes on the LCDs and I couldn’t really detect any blur.
Then we watched on a G10… Instantly we noticed that the motion was much easier on the eyes.

Back to the Aquos and Sammy and wow, you can really tell that the puck/sticks/referees jerseys really do drop resolution under motion.

Jaggies and blur where the most noticable effects and were far from undetectable. I wish this wasn’t the case, but I was blown away! Then we go to look at the 4000$ 240-LED, and IT’S WORSE!

Only after seeing true 1080 motion could I really detect the blur on the LCDs.

I know I know I know, you can’t compare TVs in the Store. But, it’s a good starting point, as we did see blur/jaggies on 3 different LCDs.

I bought a Panasonic S1 and my buddy bought a Samsung Series 7 w/ 120 mode. First we watched a hockey game at my buddies place. Motion blur with sticks and the puck was very noticable. He played around with the setting for most of the 1st period, the only thing that helped was turning off 120mode. (500$ feature down the tubes, not a happy camper)

At the end of the game, not only did the blur of the puck/sticks annoy my eyes, but I noticed blur in a much more serious place, faces. When still, you can see the hairs/pores and zits on the players faces… pan a bit and the detail is lost. Oh, static again, it’s back!!!!

It’s this switching of resolution that really annoys my eyes. The more I watch this TV, the more I can find places of blur.

After watching the next game on my S1. There’s still some blur from the source signal, but the overall detail of the puck/sticks/faces was much improved.

As for IR, haven’t seen it yet but I am careful. This IS an issue still for plasmas. My S1 TV has IR prevention build in, so the engineers obviously took steps to prevent this. Just like LCD engineers are trying to solve motion resolution problems. 320 lines under full motion is just unacceptable.

From what I read, most people probably won’t notice the motion blur/resolution drop, but I do… my buddy who bought the LCD admits it… co-worker has seen it too.

So what matters most to you?
LCD: Thinner, lighter TV that burns less energy
But, what about the Image Quality??!?!

Plasma: Blacks, Contrast Ratio, Motion Resolution.
All pluses are related to image quality.

My S1 is only 4″ thick, and burns the same energy as a CFL LCD. LED are the worst TVs ever, so we won’t even go there.

Plasma keep improving by getting thinner/lighter and more efficent while still providing maximum image quality.(1080 under motion is as good as it gets)

LCD makers have been adding new features to compensate for slow LCD panels, but all their new features introduce image artifacts!

What a sh|t show… I feel bad for Joe Blow who spends 4000$ on a 240hz LED.

I hope you read ALL my comments above.

Motion Blur does exist. It can be captured in freeze frames. I can’t see it on my personal TV’s. I chose to reference Display Mate’s article because it supports what I have said for the last 3 1/2 years. Experts, techs; columnists, could not detect motion blur with live video. I can provide you with the link, if you did not read the article.

The article talks about the fact that the human brain can’t decode complex information as perhaps a reason why we can’t see motion blur, yet we can capture it in a static image. Yes television manufactures have introduced these devises to reduce motion blur because in truth it can be measured, tested and captured in static frames, but it can not be detected in live motion. We have learned that these so called correction devises only introduce more artifacts. No dispute there.

The only motion distortion I see, is rapid flood lights in music concerts. I saw that also, with my former plasma.

My set is pre 120/240. In addition, I have all so called correction circuits turned off.

Please remember, I’m talking about my personal experience with LCD.

For Bob Stone, HD Guru and anyone interested, with regard to viewing angles. On Thursday, December 10, 2009, that is today, I took a series of photographs of my Sharp 65 inch Aquos LCD. They were taken between 4 and 5 PM local time. I set my camera on a tripod and focused on the identical portion of the screen for each shot. I used Joe Kane’s Video Essential blu ray test disc as the video source. I chose 3 different images from the disc and then paused them. The first of each image was on center and the second was approximatly 45 degrees off axis or in my viewing room, 3 seat cushions off center or in other words at the extreme viewing angle in my room. The tripod was positioned about 1 1/2 feet forward of the normal viewing position in each location.

Bob Stone, this is for you. You said: “only a seat cushion away” from the sweet spot for an LCD – the picture degrades considerably.”

If interested, please view these links. They show the images as described. THE FIRST ON CENTER, THE SECOND, OFF AXIS AS DESCRIBED.

SCENE ONE on center:
http://etype2.deviantart.com/art/LCD-test-1-on-axis-146386713
SCENE ONE 45 degrees off axis:
http://etype2.deviantart.com/art/LCD-Test-1a-off-axis-146387072
SCENE TWO on center:
http://etype2.deviantart.com/art/LCD-Test-2-on-axis-146387251
SCENE TWO 45 degrees off axis:
http://etype2.deviantart.com/art/LCD-test-2a-of-axis-146387432
SCENE THREE on center:
http://etype2.deviantart.com/art/LCD-Test-3-on-axis-146387704
SCENE THREE 45 degrees off axis:
http://etype2.deviantart.com/art/LCD-Test-3a-off-axis-146387896

If you see a small image, just left click on it to see full size. As you can see, no reduction in contrast, color shift and THREE SEAT CUSHIONS AWAY FROM CENTER OF SCREEN, at the end of a 6 person sofa. All images unedited. the background looks dark because the camera sensor focused on the light from the screen.