
(July 29, 2009) Buy a high-ticket electronics item like an HDTV today and you can be sure the salesperson will try to sell you an extended warranty that’s supposed to protect your considerable investment well beyond the length of time offered by the manufacturer.
Adding a relatively inexpensive extended warranty seems like a no-brainer so many consumers do, yet because the HD Guru frequently receives emails from buyers complaining about difficulties getting the terms of these warranties honored, we decided to investigate.
Not surprisingly, we found that often what you hear on the sales floor, read in the literature and see online is not what you get.
Best Buy, for instance, recently introduced its “Geek Squad Black Tie Protection” plan. It’s “Like Having A Geek Always With You,” proclaims the pamphlet handed out in the stores by blue shirted staff members. “If a product guarded by Black Tie Protection needs four qualified repairs throughout the duration of the plan,” the pamphlet assures consumers, “we’ll make sure that you get a new one.”
While that sounds reassuring and in and of itself may provide sufficient comfort to induce one to buy the plan, unfortunately, it’s not exactly true. According to the terms of Best Buy’s service contract rather than being “a new one,” the replacement “…may be new or rebuilt…” (“rebuilt” meaning used and refurbished) “…at our discretion.”
Best Buy’s pamphlet also states that “…for TVs 30″ and up… we’ll loan you a TV ASAP if it looks like we can’t get yours fixed on the first visit.” Sounds good, but read the actual service contract and you’ll be surprised to learn that there is no mention of a loaner TV.
Best Buy’s service contract (available upon request at a Best Buy store or on its website) does go to great lengths to state terms and conditions, with the list of terms opening with “This is a legal contract, (hereinafter referred to as ‘The Plan’). By purchasing it, you understand that it is a legal contract and have had the opportunity to read the terms and conditions within.”
However, take the time to actually read the contract rather than relying on the pamphlet and you would also learn that if Best Buy (BB) can’t repair the TV it will “…replace it with a product of like kind and quality that is of comparable performance, or reimburse you for replacement of the product with a voucher or gift card, at our discretion, equal to the fair market value of the product, as determined by us, not to exceed the original purchase price of your product including taxes (italics added by HD Guru)”.
The “fair market value” is not you might reasonably assume, the price you originally paid, but rather the covered product’s market value at the time of repair as determined by a BB employee. Of course by the time the extended warranty kicks in, the product can be up to four years old and worth next to nothing!
While we can’t cite an actual example of compensation received by a customer for an un-repairable TV covered by Best Buy’s “ Black Tie Protection Plan”, we do know that this past April, Best Buy voluntarily recalled one of its “house brand” Insignia LCD HDTV models (Post Here). Many of these recalled sets were less than three years old and sold new for up to $1000 plus tax. Best Buy provided gift cards amounting to $500 or about half of the original purchase price.
When asked to comment about the pamphlet’s claims versus the written legal contract’s actual terms, a Best Buy’s spokesperson pointed out that its service contract program’s underwriter, AIG Warranty Group, a division of AIG (yes, that AIG), ultimately determines a covered product’s value.
The spokesperson also acknowledged that despite the pamphlet’s claim, Best Buy’s service contract does not include a loaner program but that the company currently supplies 37″ Insignia LCD loaners to customers whose TVs can’t be repaired during the first service call. Whether the set in need of repair is 32” or 65” the loaner is 37” because it’s the only set size the program offers.
Here is Best Buy’s official response via email (verbatim in bold).
Replacement value
We continue to advocate for the best possible scenario for our customers, and we think they know that. We’ve had virtually no complaints from them about replacements. Replacement value is complicated because the establishment of value for replacement is determined not just by Best Buy, but by the underwriters of our plans.
We’ll continue to work with our underwriters to clarify replacement criteria in our terms and conditions, and to represent the best interests of our customers. Our progress will be reflected in our service plan literature, and ideally in continued customer satisfaction with our service plan fulfillment.
Timing for loaner TV
We say ASAP in our Geek Squad Black Tie Protection brochure because timing on loaner TVs varies depending on whether Geek Squad is doing the repair – or we’re relying on a third-party. When we’re doing the job, we can provide that replacement TV immediately, usually right out of our Geek Squad van. But in some cases, we rely on third parties to reach customers who aren’t in our service area. Still, we agree that our customers may want more details around when a loaner would be available to them. And we’ll make changes immediately in our Geek Squad Black Tie Protection literature to include more details about timing.
On line Sellers
Our recent article “On Line HDTV Stores Get Nailed For Consumer Fraud” (Link) reports that a number of Brooklyn based etailers were cited for fraud and fined by the NYS Attorney General. We checked one of the merchants still in business called “Foto Connection” that sells service contracts written by Brooklyn based Consumer Priority Service (dba CPS). We contacted CPS’s customer service department and asked for a copy of its contract. The customer service rep said it’s not available online and that a written request by US mail was required to obtain a copy—not exactly a forthcoming policy for a legitimate company, which we then suspected CPS of not being.
A check of the New York City office of the Better Business Bureau revealed that “BBB processed a total of 23 complaint(s) about this business in the last 36 months, our standard reporting period. Of the total 23 complaint(s) closed in the last 36 months, 21 were closed in the last 12 months. 2 regarded contract disputes;1 Customer Service; 12 Warranty Issues; 3 Refund or Exchange; 3 Repair Issues and 2 Service Issues.”
To Buy or Not To Buy?
Retailers and etailers offer either their own or third party service contracts. Before purchasing either kind, be sure to read it carefully, even if you need a jeweler’s loupe to clearly see the exclusions and other conditions hidden within the contract’s fine print.
HD Guru checked out the service contracts offered by 6th Avenue Electronics and P.C. Richard and Son, two NY/New Jersey Metropolitan area retail chains. Both contracts proved to be far more straightforward and concise than either Best Buy’s or Target’s. Best Buy’s plan is printed on twenty pages of a 4″ x 8.25″ pamphlet, P.C Richard’s contract terms occupy just 2/3 of a single sided letter size page.
Consider the cost before purchasing a service contract. For instance, Target’s total three years from purchase service contract for a $1300 HDTV costs $79, while BJ’s Wholesale club’s three total years from purchase service contract for the same price TV costs $119. Fined web retailer Foto Connection’s three total years CPS service contract costs $209.30
Best Buy’s four years from purchase date “Black Tie Protection service contract (including the manufacturer’s standard one-year warranty) is $229.99 for a $1299.99 HDTV. In other words you’re paying 17.5% of the set’s total cost for the three additional years of coverage. After reading all of the contract’s terms and conditions, is that a worthwhile investment? Thats your decision!
Remember too that many credit cards will double the manufacturer’s warranty, so check the terms of your credit card(s) before using one to make a purchase.
-HDGuru® with Michael Fremer
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Karl C
Posted on 30th July, 2009
I am just a normal consumer, and I’ve always had my reservations about these extended warranties. HOWEVER, to my surprise the BestBuy warranty worked out for me (your mileage may vary).
Almost 4 years ago, I bought a Toshiba 52″ DLP at BB for $1,999 + 4 year warranty. About 5 months before the warranty expired, bulb went out. I couldn’t find my documentation, but BB looked it up and found everything I needed on their systems. Shipped me a new bulb and I installed and had a nice working TV. I also noticed that my TV was starting to make a high pitched whining sound. I looked it up on Google and it was signs of the color wheel failing. So I called the geek squad again and they had a repair man come out. The part was ordered and I waited. 3 weeks went by (luckily the TV was still in working order), I got a call from BB corporate, stating that the part was on order, but wasn’t due in for 4-5 weeks. I had two choices, wait, or BB would replace my TV!
Of course I opted for the new TV. Knowing that the ONLY DLP in stock at BB was a well reviewed 60″ Mitsubushi (aprox $1400). Unfortunately, the 60″ would not fit in the cabinet and I negotiated with the sales manager. He said that he’d promise to get me a similar model. I said, well, you guys don’t have any DLP’s, and he responded, we’ll get you a 52″… he walked me back to the LCDs and Plasmas and recommended either the Sony or Samsung LCD (both retailing at $2500). He told me to choose, but I said, I don’t want to pay the difference. He said, just choose one, I’ll take care of the rest.
So I walked out of the store with a brand new 52″ 120hz Sony LCD. Only paying for a 4 year new warranty.
Yes I was surprised, and I know this isn’t the norm, but in this case, everything worked out … and even better than expected.
Agent19488
Posted on 30th July, 2009
@Karl C: I’m glad to hear about your experience with Best Buy’s service plan… because that’s the way it’s supposed to work, with as little pain for the customer as humanly possible.
We have 4 main criteria for exchanges under service plans: parts not available, parts not available in a timely fashion, repair cost more than unit is worth, and no lemon. No lemon occurs after the 4th qualified repair, which can be broken down to mean any hardware repair. So, if a product is sent out but not repaired (i.e. determined no fault found), that service doesn’t qualify toward a no lemon exchange.
For any exchange criteria, once an exchange has been approved by the service center, a new item with equal or greater specifications is given. Yes I know the plan says up to the original purchase price… but there are times when that is impossible. I’ve had instances where the item that matched spec-for-spec on a laptop was $200 more than original purchase price – and the higher price is the credit that was given.
And yes, on exchanges you do not get the unused portion of your plan back on the new item, because your plan is buying your new item. I think even with that understanding I’ve seen 1 instance where the customer did not purchase the plan on their new item – simply because they see the value of purchasing the plan.
(note that these comments are mine and mine alone, my opinions may not reflect those of Best Buy, and my username is linked to the homepage of Geek Squad Black Tie Protection, the current Best Buy service plans, which contains more extensive information including current legal terms)
Steve
Posted on 30th July, 2009
I have worked at the Best Buy in Redding, CA for about 5 years. The problem with the PSP swap outs is that people just wont let go of price, especially when swapping laptops. I know it seems obvious but someone comes in ready to get a new laptop and they cant seem to comprehend the fact that the prices on computers and laptops drop so rapidly. So they have this 3 year old laptop we are swapping for them, and I grab a laptop that is lets say $1000 to swap them for their old one that is like 4 inches thick and covered in cat hair. Then they say but I paid $2000 for my laptop you have to give me one that costs $2000! Honestly, really? I mean we say spec for spec, and they are getting a laptop that is 3 years newer technology, spec for spec it outperforms the old busted one by quite a bit. People just being greedy all they see is the dollars and not actual quality of the product.
Ok end of my little rant there, heading to the focus of the article, the PSPs, i keep calling them that because I think the “Black Tie” marketing is crap. We call them Performance Service Plans always have and probably will for a while. Anyway, the PSPs are seriously a JOKE. First off the sales people are super pressured in to selling them. We arent on comission but still, they cut a guys hours back to 4, literally 4! hours per week until he quit because he was struggling selling the PSPs. AS far as getting your item fixed you are lucky if it comes back in one piece from the service center. I really cant count how many times i have had to super glue or replace parts, or had to explain where this or that scratch came from when someone picks up an item. I asked a manager, this laptop came back from the service center with a scratched screen what do we do? He literally said, tell her there is nothing we can do because we dont know it wasnt scratched when it came in! But i always check for stuff like that, on the service tickets you note the condition it is on and there was no scratch.
Oh here’s something you will find is a gas. Buy a Toshiba television here with the PSP, then call the number and guess what there is no service available in this area for Toshiba. At least thats how it used to be, now they try and do everything in house by the “certified” techs.
As far as getting a product replaced its all about who you know in the store. We will try and find any loophole or excuse in an effort to not hurt the “Margin Dollars”. Swapping out old busted TVs and such for new ones hurts the margin, so a great way to prevent that is open box, or even store stock from the service center. yeah thats right, crap that has been wrecked by our service center we give out as replacements. We have this real tool of a manager named Harold here, and dont worry he knows I hate him and I know he hates me, and he actually suggested giving these people, who had already been dragged through hell trying to get a TV fixed, an open box TV that was a year old, and spec for spec definitely NOT a proper replacement of the TV in question. And simply because or margin for that day was hurting.
On the other hand, like I said its all about who you know, because there is actually quite a few loopholes that can help. For example BB always seems to have a pushover sales manager which seems to wield unlimited power. I told a guy with a busted iPOD to bring his mom and have her complain to the sales manager and she basically got everything she wanted and then some when she was done lol. If you happen to run in to me, yeah I am pretty bad at bending the rules to help people because i just know people are not being given the facts. Someone comes in with a laptop that has been out to service like 3 times and some kid is telling them it has to go another time, or that didnt count as a qualifying repair, I will just take over and make a fake service tag for like a week ago and say, hey this has been to service with 4 qualifying repairs it should have been swapped and I grab them a new one. And typically I get them one that is way better than an appropriate swap and just say its all we have. Hah one of my favorites was someone has this old gateway notebook and i swapped him for a brand new Sony VAIO. ah good times. The point here is that they CAN absolutely provide a good experience and help you out, but they choose not to.
anyway sorry for being so long winded! any questions anyone has or war stories anyone wants to hear from someone who has NOT gone off and had their internal organs replaced by insignia and Dynex robot parts (Agent19488) feel free to fire them off. If you dont believe i work at best buy i can post a pic of my DA badge if need be HAH
Jimmy
Posted on 30th July, 2009
You know, having been a Best Buy employee for over 10 years, I can say that the only time I have seen customers disappointed when they come in to claim a replacement is when they have unrealistic expectations about what they will receive, just as Steve began to point out.
As for avoiding discounts based on margin, those must be some useless managers as the store is paid back by the underwriter at the end of the month for the replaced set. if the customer receives an open item, the store only receives credit for the open item. It’s a wash weather they get a new or open tv.
My seasoned advice is to get the plan on larger, more complex items. Special attention to laptops and digital cameras with accidental damage from handling protection. “oops, i dropped my camera” “ok, here’s a like model.”
Yes, we are pressured to sell them, but we’re pressured to sell everything. IT’S A BUSINESS! We’re not a charity and we enjoy customers that enjoy us. When I have a customer that is very nice, patient and understanding, I bend over backwards and pressure my manager to give them discounts. Just be kind and you’ll get what you want. Play hard ball and the conversation with my manager will be something like this: “They want a discount and they are being jerks. How about 5%?”
As with anywhere, there are bad apples. Don’t let them push you into believing that we are all like that.
b mulligan
Posted on 30th July, 2009
Gee, every time I’ve been given the warranty spchiel, they always tell me I’ll get my purchase price back. When my TV was deemed unfixable, I called corporate 3 times after being told by the tech department to return my TV to the original store. Each call confirmed they would give me my original purchase price and I could use it to get a new TV. Everything looked good for a smooth transaction.
Unfortunately, I had to argue with the manager and get tossed around on corporate phone lines for THREE hours until she was finally told by corporate to give me the original purchase price. During that little dance, she told me I had to accept her offer of a $500 TV or I could just take my old TV back home. Luckily and by total chance, I got a hold of a corporate VP who took care of me by calling the manager while I was standing right in front of her. She ducked into the back room to take the call. Then, she acted like she was doing me a favor by giving me the refund.
I should have demanded it in cash, but stupid me, I bought another TV and another 4 year warranty.
I hope I NEVER have to deal with Best Buy again for warranty claims.
Former Geek Squad Double Agent
Posted on 30th July, 2009
I agree that replacement plans can be a hassle. Over my course of working for BB for 4+ years I bought several plans due to the fact that they were a lot less than the retail price, but there were many I didn’t buy.
You have to say to yourself if the cost for a service plan is 25% or more for a product, when it’s time to use it how much would that same product be when you need to use it. Every laptop I have purchased whether from BB or Direct Manufacturer I have purchased one. But I didn’t by a $500 laptop with a $250 dollar service plan. Doesn’t make sense. If it happens 3 years down the road I am sure I could find that same computer for $250 or I can buy a brand new one for not much more, same goes for TV, etc. etc.
I had a laptop that had a failed hard drive 3 times and the charging port broken 2 times (common for that model) and I requested a replacement. The manager wanted to send it off for service again and I refused (this is when I was still working for BB; I didn’t do any of the repairs to make sure everything was documented just like a regular customer). I called the 1-800 number and gave my ticket #’s to the rep. She cross checked them in the system, called the store, and told that same manager to have my money ready.
As far as I know and I have done PSP exchanges/replacements for customers, and utilized them myself, and I never once was given or even offered a refurbished unit. I haven’t bought much of anything outside of appliances from BB in the last few years that would require a service plan, but the literature that was in the paperwork stated that you would receive the cost of your initial purchase back in the form of a voucher(Replacements) or a gift card (4 time warranty swap), but YMMV.
At the end of the day, if you get a plan and your not given the repair/replacement that you need, Call Best Buy’s 1-800 number. I have had issues with Toshiba, HP, etc. for direct dealer repairs, but I stayed on them everyday. Even contact BBB if your complaints fall on deaf ears.
Best of Luck
-Happy Ex-Retail now Gov. Employee-
"Fred"
Posted on 31st July, 2009
Mike – Your statement that Best Buy contracts do not cover DLP bulbs is INCORRECT!
Here is the verbiage direct from the PSP Documentation: “DLP, Projection LCD TVs and Home Theater Projectors: One (1) bulb replacement during the term of the Plan. This benefit does not apply towards the No Lemon Policy. – Performance Service Plan Form = 95171 (7/07)”
Karl – Great to hear you had a good experience. I did too.
I had purchased a TIVO DVD Recorder in 2004 with a 4 yr contract. I renewed this contract in 2008 for 2 more years. In the fall of 2008 my TIVO DVD Recorder stopped working. I took it to the nearest Best Buy Store who logged in my repair and sent it to a depot repair location. EST REPAIR TIME: 3-4 weeks (with transit).
I received a call that my unit could not be repaired and I was provided with a BBY Gift Card for $599 (plus tax) since my unit was no longer available. I took my gift card and immediately bought a 56″ Samsung Plasma on sale for $999 and bought the 4 year Black Tie Protection for $249.
Out of pocket expense for a BRAND NEW 56″ PLASMA – $600!! Use of my TIVO DVD Recorder for 6 years = PRICELESS! (Note: I then went eBay and bought the SAME refurbed TIVO for under $120 WITH a 2 yr warranty!)
I WON ON ALL PLAYING FIELDS!
Service Protection and Replacement Plans are worth EVERY PENNY on larger complex items. Do your homework and buy as an educated consumer. Thanks for this forum!
Gerry
Posted on 7th August, 2009
I have never purchased an extended warranty on anything but have kept track of how much I would have spent on computers, stereo equipment, cameras, printers, televisions…. I did so just to see what self insuring would result in over the long run. I just had a TV go that was over 10 years old and replaced it with a new 54″ plasma Panasonic. I added $330 to my extended warranty savings which brings the total to $3760.
If this TV happened to break down in a couple years I could either get it repaired or purchase a new one and still have plenty left over from my savings. I realize that some people have had bad experiences with electronics but in the long run, on average, they normally last a long time.
I have a Mac computer ( in addition to an HP Notebook) that I never turn off and is 10 years old.
Extended warranties are very high profit sales items and, hence, sales people will try to push them. I don’t blame them, they are just doing their job, but I just say upfront that if they mention extended warranties once I will not make the purchase.
Bev L
Posted on 7th August, 2009
This post illustrates part of a dilemma I’m having in buying a Sony 40XBR9. It’s expensive, but Best Buy, Amazon, and J&R Electronics (online only for me) have decent sale prices on it periodically.
I really hate the idea of shelling out that much money without buying a service contract, but I just can’t figure out if a service contract is worth the paper it’s printed on. We had a service contract through Circuit City (I sure miss them) for our 2004 Sony 42″ LCD, but it was expensive too. However, it covered everything, including lightbulbs.
On the one hand, I feel “safer” buying from Best Buy because they have a local store, but on the other hand, that shouldn’t matter at all if I can get a reliable, comprehensive service plan, right?
The right service plan might mean I could shop anywhere. I’ve purchased SquareTrade warranties for a few relatively inexpensive items like an XBox and a cell phone, but haven’t had to make a claim yet. Since SquareTrade offers warranties on new TVs for a fraction of the cost of Best Buy and J&R, I was wondering if you have any experience or opinions with their warranty service? What about plans offered through Amazon?
Noah
Posted on 11th August, 2009
The bottom line is that all of these comments prove that everybody has had a different experience. I have worked in the CE industry for 9 years now, with the majority coming at a high end store in the Pacific Northwest.
I take issue with one of the responses made by aBest Buy employee that supposedly represent my industry, as well as the ‘Good Samaritan Shopper’ that stepped in and saved a family from a bad warranty by upselling their TV.
Let’s start with the know it all Saturday Shopper. My best guess tells me that you have zero experience in the actual SALES of A/V equipment, so that gives you full authority to spend somebody else’s hard earned money… Right?
What you fail to realize is that the family who you ’saved’ may have been budgeting their finances for years to be able to purchase a new TV and isn’t in the position to buy another one if their TV is in percentage of sets that fail within 4 years (A completely made up and inaccurate statistic on your part).
To a lot of customers, simply having a mid level television with the peace of mind in knowing that they will not foot the repair bill is the best thing they can purchase. And when their TV goes out, you will be the guy buying them a new one, right?
…. Wait, you’ll probably be sitting in Best Buy on another Saturday spilling out your advise to anybody who will listen and everybody who won’t.
For the Best Buy Employee who is defrauding his company by forging false service tickets, he should be equally ashamed of himself. It’s people who take advantage of the system (Either for or against the client) that lead to such a negative perception of our industry. You think that you’re showing the good side of the technicians, but what you don’t realize is that what you are doing destroys consumer trust as well.
An extended service plan is a decision that every client needs to make for themself, not to rely on the exceptionally heavily bias of anybody within earshot of the conversation. We all know the adage of what opions are anatomically similar to with human beings, but when it comes to extended service plans, it seems that we have a race of mutants, each owning 3 or 4 opinions.
Service centers that employ hundreds of full time technicians exist for a reason; components break down. With the complete and utter erosion of price point, manufacturers are scrambling to come up with more cost efficient models to keep themselves afloat… Tell me that Sony is ok with taking another billion dollar loss next 4th quarter, and I’ve got a bridge to sell you. Less expensive products that cost less to produce do not come with less frequently repaired units… It doesn’t make sense.
At the end of the day, when you purchase a piece of electronics, you are also buying stock in the company that you purchased from, including their warranty. Do you trust the financial and responsibility of the company you buy from enough to support you after the fact? That’s the real question that you have to answer before you hand over your credit card.
Just remember that hindsight is always 20/20, and you may find yourself buying a new set well before you intended.
Greg
Posted on 24th August, 2009
I completely agree with Noah. You can’t always trust employees of the stores, because many of their incentives and job positions depend on how well they sell these services. On the other hand, the customers that try to outsmart salespeople or other customers with numbers already have it in their head that extended service plans are rip offs and literally nothing you say would convince them.
At the electronics store that I worked at, the newest employees felt pressure from managers to sell these contracts, and the ones that were there for a while had a more laid back approach. People that push it on you hard are more likely newer. Of course, if you believe in something you are more likely to sell it and vice versa. So if someone knows their stuff and is established and recommends the warranty, they likely really like it and have it on many products, such as myself. If they mention it you say no and they drop it, it is likely that they don’t think that it’s worth it.
I’ve always felt being honest with the customer is better. Many want to hear that it is peace of mind to have it rather than the specifics and details of the contract. I have it on most of my large electronic purchases for the last few years (except for my main LCD TV and the speakers are crackling less than 3 years after purchase). I believe in it for these large purchases.
Intheknow
Posted on 24th September, 2009
first, i work for a third party service administrator and have been part of the consumer electronics/appliance industry for a long time. we know that given enough hype, marketing and training, and yes, ignorance, enough consumers will buy service plans to make for a very viable business.
extended service plans are sold solely for the retailer and 3rd party to make “x%” profit margin. the actuarial value of the service contract has built in some consumer use, but very little percentage wise. as posted above, Consumer Reports statistically accurate surveys generally report a 2-5% first 3-4 year defective rate for lcd & plasma tvs. yes, Sony being 2%. there’s no lump sum service contract, for a regular consumer (as opposed to a business use copier per say) that justifies it’s purchase based on probability of failure. now, though, some retailers take much less profit margin (Target, Walmart) selling them.
let’s differentiate between lump sum and monthly plans that are closer to “insurance.”
imagine a retail world without the sales speak of extended warranties! wow, a much more pleasant shopping experience! manufacturers competing on quality and performance alone! there’s enough disingenuous salespeople to start a new chain. best buy lives for their service plans, as does several other retailers. how ridiculous and insulting is it to be offered the exhorbitantly priced master protection agreements at Sears. shop to look – but buy on Amazon. no hassles. great product reviews.
if you have to review the fine print to uncover significant details of the service plan, it’s not worth the paper it was printed on.
although hyped, product failure due to a power surge is rare.
over the years, one observation of buying patterns was very interesting. People of Asian ethnicities rarely purchase service contracts. Why – the same reason they score the highest on the SATs – bad financial decision probability wise – trust in the reputable brands (Sony, Panasonic, etc) – and the ability to navigate the “sales speak.”
btw, the third party servicers don’t always give you the best service option. service companies whose labor costs are lower get priority, not necessarily the closest in proximity to you or the best.
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