Comments on: Cable Industry’s Plans to Cheat HDTV Owners Part II : Cable and Consumer Electronics Industries Debate the Issue http://hdguru.com/cable-industry%e2%80%99s-plans-to-cheat-hdtv-owners-part-ii-cable-and-consumer-electronics-industries-debate/234/ HD Guru for the latest news, reviews, archives and consumer information about High Definition Television Wed, 16 May 2012 17:30:37 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Mike http://hdguru.com/cable-industry%e2%80%99s-plans-to-cheat-hdtv-owners-part-ii-cable-and-consumer-electronics-industries-debate/234/comment-page-1/#comment-20394 Mike Tue, 03 Jun 2008 18:17:32 +0000 http://hdguru.com/cable-industry%e2%80%99s-plans-to-cheat-hdtv-owners-part-ii-cable-and-consumer-electronics-industries-debate/234/#comment-20394 I'm not sure, but it sounds like the reason TIVO & friends have not produced a two-way DVR is that the cable companies want a high level of security. I reference the requirement that the code be written in Java, which executes in a protected "playpen", the Java Virtual Machine, that embodies security measures as well as all hardware access. I really can't blame the cable operators for protecting their content security. The music industry has been devastated by piracy and the movie industry is not far behind. I assume that the cable operators want to control the jvm inside the TIVO. That would mean the cable operators would know exactly how a TIVO works but TIVO would not know how cablecard security works. This may seem unfair, but Time Warner is big enough to sue while a programmer turned hacker is judgement-proof and, as John Ehrlichman told John Dean, it's hard to get the toothpaste back in the tube (once the algorithm hits the Internet). I could be off base about this. If so, please correct me. What exactly is the "licensing dispute" between the cable operators and folks like TIVO that impeded 2-way use of cablecards? I’m not sure, but it sounds like the reason TIVO & friends have not produced a two-way DVR is that the cable companies want a high level of security.
I reference the requirement that the code be written in Java, which executes in a protected “playpen”, the Java Virtual Machine, that embodies security measures as well as all hardware access.
I really can’t blame the cable operators for protecting their content security. The music industry has been devastated by piracy and the movie industry is not far behind.
I assume that the cable operators want to control the jvm inside the TIVO. That would mean the cable operators would know exactly how a TIVO works but TIVO would not know how cablecard security works. This may seem unfair, but Time Warner is big enough to sue while a programmer turned hacker is judgement-proof and, as John Ehrlichman told John Dean, it’s hard to get the toothpaste back in the tube (once the algorithm hits the Internet).
I could be off base about this. If so, please correct me. What exactly is the “licensing dispute” between the cable operators and folks like TIVO that impeded 2-way use of cablecards?

]]> By: IP Democracy http://hdguru.com/cable-industry%e2%80%99s-plans-to-cheat-hdtv-owners-part-ii-cable-and-consumer-electronics-industries-debate/234/comment-page-1/#comment-18730 IP Democracy Tue, 29 Apr 2008 18:04:05 +0000 http://hdguru.com/cable-industry%e2%80%99s-plans-to-cheat-hdtv-owners-part-ii-cable-and-consumer-electronics-industries-debate/234/#comment-18730 <strong>More Efforts by Cable to Reach Out to Bloggers</strong> First, Comcast got wise to Twitter then the National Cable & Telecommunications Association launched a blog-heavy ad campaign. Now the cable industry's main trade association is targeting bloggers in briefing calls, just like political campaigns d... More Efforts by Cable to Reach Out to Bloggers

First, Comcast got wise to Twitter then the National Cable & Telecommunications Association launched a blog-heavy ad campaign. Now the cable industry’s main trade association is targeting bloggers in briefing calls, just like political campaigns d…

]]> By: KeithP http://hdguru.com/cable-industry%e2%80%99s-plans-to-cheat-hdtv-owners-part-ii-cable-and-consumer-electronics-industries-debate/234/comment-page-1/#comment-18648 KeithP Mon, 28 Apr 2008 22:24:11 +0000 http://hdguru.com/cable-industry%e2%80%99s-plans-to-cheat-hdtv-owners-part-ii-cable-and-consumer-electronics-industries-debate/234/#comment-18648 In addition to filing complaints with the FCC and the companies involved, I would also suggest dumping your cable service. I did this a few months ago and have found plenty of free content online through podcasts, both audio and video. That and a Netflix or Blockbuster online account will provide most people with plenty of things to watch without paying cable companies a dime. -KeithP In addition to filing complaints with the FCC and the companies involved, I would also suggest dumping your cable service.

I did this a few months ago and have found plenty of free content online through podcasts, both audio and video. That and a Netflix or Blockbuster online account will provide most people with plenty of things to watch without paying cable companies a dime.

-KeithP

]]> By: Ben Drawbaugh http://hdguru.com/cable-industry%e2%80%99s-plans-to-cheat-hdtv-owners-part-ii-cable-and-consumer-electronics-industries-debate/234/comment-page-1/#comment-18385 Ben Drawbaugh Sun, 20 Apr 2008 03:59:08 +0000 http://hdguru.com/cable-industry%e2%80%99s-plans-to-cheat-hdtv-owners-part-ii-cable-and-consumer-electronics-industries-debate/234/#comment-18385 While the real loser here is the consumer at the fault of the cable industry, the FCC is to blame. Seriously, how could the FCC possibly claim its holding up to the 1996 law with the way it is enforcing it? While the real loser here is the consumer at the fault of the cable industry, the FCC is to blame. Seriously, how could the FCC possibly claim its holding up to the 1996 law with the way it is enforcing it?

]]> By: DTV-Guru http://hdguru.com/cable-industry%e2%80%99s-plans-to-cheat-hdtv-owners-part-ii-cable-and-consumer-electronics-industries-debate/234/comment-page-1/#comment-18363 DTV-Guru Fri, 18 Apr 2008 22:33:33 +0000 http://hdguru.com/cable-industry%e2%80%99s-plans-to-cheat-hdtv-owners-part-ii-cable-and-consumer-electronics-industries-debate/234/#comment-18363 Hmmm. Brian said "Any assertion that the CE industry CHOSE to implement one-way devices is blatant revisionism." Does that mean they were forced to build those products? How so? It looks to me like the CE industry is trying to force a bunch a crap on their customers. It wouldn't be the first time... <strong>Note: The originating IP address of this comment is registered to Cable Television Laboratories Inc. (aka Cablelabs)-HD Guru</strong> Hmmm. Brian said “Any assertion that the CE industry CHOSE to implement one-way devices is blatant revisionism.”

Does that mean they were forced to build those products? How so? It looks to me like the CE industry is trying to force a bunch a crap on their customers. It wouldn’t be the first time…

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